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Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained

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There are only seven heads. Which are seven kings. The only way for the beast to become the eighth king is to have either been one of the previous seven, or possess one of the previous seven. Either way, as you say, one of the heads is used twice.

It is king seven, because when he comes, he must continue a sort space, it says.
 
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If you read the OP you will see my thoughts/revelation on this. Thanks for the reply.
 
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The White Horse is in Revelation chapter 6, and the "Crown" is not really a crown, if you look at the Root word used here it is far different than the Root word used in Revelation CHAPTER 19.

The Greek word used for "crown" in Rev. 6:2 is stephanos (4735) meaning to twine or a wreath given in honor of a victory, so if we read the Holy Word as WRITTEN and not trust the translation to be perfect just because it is the KJV, then we can understand the difference. All we have to do now is go to Rev. 19 and see what kind of Crown Jesus has.

Rev. 19:12 the word used for "Crown" is diadema and it says on his head were MANY CROWNS....Diadema (1238-the kingly ornament for the head, the crown).......So we see one is a WREATH or TWINE given as an honor for a victory, signifying CONQUEST, which is what the Anti-Christ does, and the other is signifying the CROWN OF A TRUE KING or a Kingly Crown. So Christ is a TRUE KING and the Anti-Christ s just a CONQUEROR.


Now look up the Hebrew word for CONFIRM in Daniel 9:27 !!... Look it up !! quit trusting the KJV, the biggest mistake we make, the ORIGINAL is the BEST VERSION !! The Hebrew Version.


1.) Confirm = gabar 1396 (Hebrew Word) meaning to be strong, to prevail or to act insolently. When you add up being STRONG, PREVAILING and Acting INSOLENTLY what do you come up with ? Someone who strong-armed the situation, and did it in an ARROGANT WAY. And I am looking at what the Anti-Christ is like in Daniel chapter 8, I put it all together like a Mosaic.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy (7922 sekel-Intelligence/Success) also he shall cause craft (4820 Mirmah-Deception/Fraud) to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace (7962 Shalvah-SECURITY) shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Now what does the Holy Word say ? He destroys by FAKE (Deception) SECURITY !! It is right their in the Bible, if we quit trusting FULLY in ONE TRANSLATION !! No translations are perfect. I like the KJV best myself, but I trust no translation 100 percent. WHY SHOULD ANYONE ?

So by his cunning and intelligence he DECEIVES people via FRAUD he magnifies himself and decides to control ALL THINGS and ALL PEOPLES so after he gains their confidence through LIES/FRAUD he uses the trust they placed in his PROTECTION/SECURITY and destroys many people.

I do not imagine anything brother, I study hard and pray a lot for understanding.
 
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And each one is a Beast, we know this via Rev. 13, where the Lion, Bear and Leopard was a PART OF THE Seven Headed Beast. This not even in doubt.

And the KJV is not the ONLY TRANSLATION, we have many translations, and I trust NONE OF THEM FULLY. I look at all, then I use the actual Greek and Hebrew words and go see for myself what they mean.

You wrote: "The Lion, Bear, and Leopard are a part of this Seven Headed Beast,"

What part? The beast's body, his feet, his mouth - but none of his heads. None of heads represent the lion, bear, leopard kingdoms.
If you can't get this clue then I can't help you. This is just not that hard to figure out imho, especially after God has revealed this in these end times. I laid down all of my other opinions. My job is not to be right or wrong but to be receptive to the Holy Spirit.

That is what I have done, this is what God has given me, so I will never go against what God has shown me.

God Bless.
 
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And each one is a Beast, we know this via Rev. 13, where the Lion, Bear and Leopard was a PART OF THE Seven Headed Beast. This not even in doubt.

The beast:

head
head
head
head
head
head
head
feet - like a bear - medes persians empire
mouth - like a lion - babylonian empire
body - like a leopard - greek empire



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Interesting interpretation, there is also another, briefly: The seventh king has not come yet, when he comes he will remain only a little while, Satan brings one of the first five emperors out of hell, brings him up out of the abyss and installs him in the seventh thus creating the "abomination", using the opportunity of the seventh receiving the fatal wound and coming back to life, Satan will successfully create a human transmutation of a dead emperor to be his Christ, being dead and raised again, thus he was and is not and will come. he comes back alive as the eight and is worshipped by everyone.
 
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Yes, it is interesting, because it says the eight comes up out of the abyss, and becomes the emperor of the end, whether it actually says that he is of the seven, or of the seventh is debatable, I think it may be seventh because those same words are translated "seventh" else where, so we could be seeing a direct reference to a human transmutation, sort of a switcheroo that happens to the seventh that creates the eighth. For it to say that he is of the seven would be redundant because we already know that because it says that he 'was', so we know that he was one of the first five emperors already.
 
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It will not be a human. Notice I spoke of Apollyon ? Apollyon (meaning Destroyer) is loosed out of the bottomless pit in Rev. chapter 9. My thinking is this Demon was locked in the pit on purpose until a certain time, and he could have been the Demonic ruler (By Satan's orders of course) over all the Beasts (Babylon, Greece Rome Etc.), hence the name Destroyer. So he was in PERDITION, and was loosed, so he was, then WAS NOT (was in the pit) Yet is (Released from the pot in Rev. 9).

So the Beast was, IS NOT, Yet is.

Apollyon was ruling, he was placed in the bottomless pit, and then released.......I think this is the logical meaning of all of this. Yet I do not find it that important. Satan is ultimately in control, even of Apollyon. The Beast that will conquer Israel is a Man. This other "Beast" or 8th King is just the Demon that has enticed and seduced these men to do his will.
 
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The beast:
head
head
head
head
head
head
head
feet - like a bear - medes persians empire
mouth - like a lion - babylonian empire
body - like a leopard - greek empire



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Each Beast had a different body. The Seven Headed Beast can not have Seven Bodies, thus Jesus let us know that these Beasts of Daniel were a part of this Seven Headed Beast by including them. I do not get the lack of understanding here, this is simple. Beasts Conquer Israel. WE KNOW VIA HISTORY WHO THEY ARE.....

All the Bodies were co-mingled, the Heads were each different.
 
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The KJV says "of the seven".

In Revelation 17, there are no crowns on the heads. The sixth king was ruling at the time. Six kings accounted for. Since there is no mortally wounded head in the Revelation 17 description and the six kings accounted for - that leaves only king 7.... as the end times king.

In Revelation 12, which is the 70th week relevant to Israel, the heads have crowns - indicating that king seven has come to power and the prophecy of the seven kings complete.

In Revelation 13, which is the second half of the 70th week, the heads have no crowns - indicating that the seven kings prophecy is over, with one head being mortally wounded and come back to life - king 7 will be killed, and when he comes back to life (to continue a short space of the 42 months) it is as the eighth king - but the beast in the bottomless pit has to be factored in

And the only way that can be done is if the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit to possess the killed and brought back to life king 7. The beast is the eighth king (and of the 7) only by possession.
 
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Babylon and the harlot speak to me about the lies, greed, exploitation and materialism I see in the world - a kind of captivity. I like to keep things simple, which means I'm probably wrong.

Welcome to the board my UK Friend. You are not off in what you say, however once I understood John encoded the book of Revelation with the Old Testament it started jumping off the pages for me. Out of 404 verses 289 are laced with Old Testament verbiage.

This preacher preached this one day and I started studying in this manner, looking to see if he was correct, the first thing I studied was Rev. 12, the Woman, the Baby/Man-Child and the Dragon. Many people said the Woman was the Church, some said Israel, so I used his technique.

The Woman was clothed in the Sun, Moon and 12 stars. Now we go to Genesis 37 and Daniel dreamed a dream that the Sun, Moon and 11 Stars would pay obeisance unto him. HENCE....the Woman is the Sun (Jacob) moon (Rachel) and his 11 Brothers. OR ISRAEL.

It is true, the Revelation is encoded with the Old Testament, and we just have to put it together. WE MUST DECODE IT.

Welcome, God Bless.
 
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You are correct in a sense, the word used for SEVEN is used ONE TIME for Seventh on Matthew 22:26 the Greek word used is heptah G2033.

But it is not of the Seventh it is of the Seven, I think that is made obvious by the language in the few verses. He WAS, Was NOT, yet IS, seeming to say this Beast was Before in control, and now Again is in control.
 
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The exact same Greek words and tense are used in Matt. 22:26 and are translated "seventh", its like us saying in English "Number Seven", I think the reason why the Translator did not make this connection is because the context would not have made sense, it would not have made sense for another almost 2000 years, with todays technology, and medical science coupled with Satanic power could make a human transmutation possible, thus "the Abomination that causes desolation", he is called an Abomination because of what he is, in this light you could see the scripture read: he is the eight, and is of the seventh, or "Number Seven". That is how you could have a seven headed beast have eight heads, the body of the seventh is used twice, as soon as the seventh becomes the emperor of the revived empire Satan hijacks it with a transmutation.
 
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It could be that the seven heads/kings refer to Roman Emperors, the first five being Augustus, Tiberius, Claudius, Caligula, Nero, and then the sixth or "is" being Vespasian (he was the one that was in control of the legions and Jerusalem) and then Jerusalem was destroyed, so the seventh has not appeared and will not until the Empire is revived in a sense "iron mixed with clay" and the Temple is rebuilt, then the seventh is revealed, and then changed into the Eighth.
 
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My comment

7 kingdoms, each with the human king "position" of the kingdom .... 5 fallen, and 2 coming .... some of the 5 kingdoms have had more than just one human king .... the next 2 will have one human king ruling over the 6th and the 7th kingdom

There will be no revived Roman Empire as many think

And a temple will not be rebuilt either before or during the coming tribulation period

Satan's beast rules over all 7 Middle Eastern kingdoms

This beast was sent to the abyss after his 5th kingdom fell and is still there as we speak

Not active during Rome's rule or any subsequent rulers of the Middle East to this very day .... there have been several

This beast will be released to rule again over his next 2 kingdoms at the end of this present age

And when he has fully possessed the human ruler [the little horn of Daniel's visions], he will become the 8th king ruling over his 7th and final kingdom
 
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7 kingdoms, each with the human king "position" of the kingdom .... 5 fallen, and 2 coming .... some of the 5 kingdoms have had more than just one human king .... the next 2 will have one human king ruling over the 6th and the 7th kingdom
This is true, the Kingdoms had many Kings, except the Last Coming Kingdom which will have ONE MAN who rules for a SHORT TIME. There will not be two Kings in the Future, John/Jesus said that one WAS which meant Rome was the 6th and was currently ruling. There will be a Seventh King who is the Anti-Christ via the Fourth Beasts Footprint, but there is also an 8th King, a Demon entity that has been over all Seven of the Kingdoms. So we get 8 Kings and 7 Beasts.
There will be no revived Roman Empire as many think
Disagree, there will be no coming Muslim Empire, they will be conquered or subjugated, then the False Prophet, Beast and Satan entices them (Kings of the East) to come against Israel at the end.

And a temple will not be rebuilt either before or during the coming tribulation period
It will be rebuilt, scriptures throughout the bible clearly shows this to be the case. It will happen very soon.

The Seventh Beast or the Anti-Christ and 10 Kings arise out of Europe. The Anti-Christ is born in Greece.
 
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