Baby Naming Ceremony

[Salvatore Gonzales]

Is there a tradition in Messianic Judaism that maintains
baby naming?

What established this practice in the first place? It doesn't
seem to be in the Torah?

 

[simchat_torah]

None that I am aware of.

 

[Henaynei]

The name of a child becomes "official" when he becomes an "official" member of the Jewish community and the covenant, at the Bris. This is the first time the child's name is pronounced before the community of Israel, as it were. "Let his name be known as .... in Israel." This took on even more meaning as in the Diaspora Jews usually were required, or did because of efforts to assimilate, to take on non-hebrew names.

Modern and post-modern Judaism has created a companion ceremony for the girls, since they are spared the bris. Hence, the "naming" ceremony.

At the Bris or the naming ceremony the name is always Hebrew.

 

[simchat_torah]

The question was:

Is there a tradition in Messianic Judaism that maintains
baby naming?

(emphasis mine)

I don't think I've ever seen a messianic bris...

 

[Henaynei]

The question was:
I don't think I've ever seen a messianic bris...

I have seen several - well, at least 2 I can clearly remember LOL

 

[Salvatore Gonzales]

A BIG thanks everyone.

I had run into a situation with a "mixed" couple: one
Christian; one Jewish. The grandparents of their
child wanted a naming ceremony for the new
baby. Their rabbi refused to perform it.


The grandparents were angry about it, but
the parents weren't. I think they're just
going to do it themselves with the rest
of the family in attendance at a home.

 

[Henaynei]

A BIG thanks everyone.

I had run into a situation with a "mixed" couple: one Christian; one Jewish. The grandparents of their child wanted a naming ceremony for the new baby. Their rabbi refused to perform it.

The grandparents were angry about it, but the parents weren't. I think they're just going to do it themselves with the rest of the family in attendance at a home.

Non-Messianic Rabbis, as a rule (and all rules are broken) will not preform a Bris on a child of a "mixed" (i.e. actively Jewish & Christian) couple.

Rejoice - it is acts like that among the Jewish community that drive people like those grandparents to check out the Messianic community!! B"H!!

 

[WildCelt]

Question: Do many Messianic Gentiles perform the Bris on their (male) children? On what basis do they perform it?

Edit: Uh oh, I think I just hijacked this thread. Sorry!

 

[Henaynei]

Only if the child is Jewish (i.e. has Jewish parents by birth or legitimate conversion) does the Bris signify entrance into the Mosaic covenant.

I can not speak to what the various colorful spectra of Messianic Gentiles do - certainly there is no official recognition of such a ceremony for non-Jews recognized in the Jewish community, inside or outside the Messianic community.

 

[The Thadman]

I can not speak to what the various colorful spectra of Messianic Gentiles do - certainly there is no official recognition of such a ceremony for non-Jews recognized in the Jewish community, inside or outside the Messianic community.

As far as I know, there's no ceremony for Messianic Gentiles, but all of us who I personally know are circumcised, and plan to circumcise their children. Most of us see it as keeping in line with Isaiah 56.

Shlomo,
-Steve-o

 

[WildCelt]

Thanks to you both for the response!