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The "man of sin" sitting in the temple is secular humanism.

God's Holy Spirit leaves the body temple... replaced with rebellion against God's laws...
resulting in a 'man of lawlessness'... sinful indulgences and blasphemous self-worship.

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This is an opinion. My opinion is that there's going to be a literal man of sin and false prophet who get thrown into the Lake of Fire when Jesus returns (Revelation 19:20). You're allowed to have an opinion and so am I.
 
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This is an opinion. My opinion is that there's going to be a literal man of sin and false prophet who get thrown into the Lake of Fire when Jesus returns (Revelation 19:20). You're allowed to have an opinion and so am I.


Do you look forward to jews rebuilding their blasphemous antichrist temple ??

Apparently, Jesus has to wait for antichrists to rebuild their temple that was destroyed as He foretold....
or... maybe fifth-column antichrists who have already been released from the bottomless pit have included
all this nonsense in their "great apostasy" package they have sold to the lukewarm churches.

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Do you look forward to jews rebuilding their blasphemous antichrist temple ??

Apparently, Jesus has to wait for antichrists to rebuild their temple that was destroyed as He foretold....
or... maybe fifth-column antichrists who have already been released from the bottomless pit have included
all this nonsense in their "great apostasy" package they have sold to the lukewarm churches.

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I don't know. Perhaps, but it might not be necessary.

Your tone sounds very bitter. The lukewarm churches probably don't know a thing about the great apostasy. For example I have heard a sermon where a pastor redefined falling away [Greek: apostasia] as a Pre-Tribulation Rapture. And he didn't quote 2 Thessalonians 2:1 (only 2-3), which would have made it clear that that Day was referring to the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him.
 
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The "man of sin" sitting in the temple is secular humanism.

God's Holy Spirit leaves the body temple... replaced with rebellion against God's laws...
resulting in a 'man of lawlessness'... sinful indulgences and blasphemous self-worship.

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Gods laws? You mean the mitzvah?
 
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God's laws... that both the OT and NT tell us God wants written in His people's hearts.

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The old covenant laws apply to those bound to an old covenant ... The new laws are within the new covenant that new covenant participants must have written within their hearts... You should not mix the two it's forbidden...

In fact if one fulfills the new covenant laws it's counted as if one had fulfilled the entire law... Do you know why that is so?
 
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What part of "BOTH the OT and NT".... do you not understand ??

God's laws... that both the OT and NT tell us God wants written in His people's hearts.

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So none sabbath keepers are doomed?
 
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God's laws... that both the OT and NT tell us God wants written in His people's hearts.

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2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God [God-breathed], and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Hebrews 4:12
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

John 1:1-4, 14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men...
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Genesis 1:3, 6-7, 9, 11, 14-15, 20-21, 24, 26-27
Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light... 6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so... 9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so... 11 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so... 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so... 20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind... 24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so... 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Revelation 19:13-15, 21
13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God...
21 And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

The word of God, written by the Word of God, is utterly reliable. The Word of God, who created with His voice, will destroy with His voice. Let us believe the Word of God and obey the word of God.
 
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Let's just cut to the chase... do you advocate Christians follow or reject God's civil and moral laws ??

I advocate following God's Law.

What say you ??

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I don't follow the old laws because I believe Jesus fulfilled the old laws for me having obtained the righteousness of gods laws for me..

Do you not believe Jesus did that for you?
 
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You didn't answer my question... do you advocate Christians reject God's Law as you have ??

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How many Christians do you know walking in the sabbaths?

Most Christians I know go to church on Sunday
 
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I think you are afraid to answer my question... and you should be afraid... very afraid.

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What do you think I was going to say?... Because I have no clue... Technically I thought I did answer your question...
 
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The old law says though shall not kill.. As a Christian I follow that law in fact my law says judge not..yet the law says if a man commits a sin worthy of death he should be judge by the law yet my law says judge not ..so which law is greater?

If you judge right as to which law is greater then you will be able to discern who Babylon is...Babylon will judge by the law and hold the old law as greater...because she has fallen away from the faith
 
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The old law says though shall not kill.. As a Christian I follow that law in fact my law says judge not..yet the law says if a man commits a sin worthy of death he should be judge by the law yet my law says judge not ..so which law is greater?

Thou shalt not murder. Capital punishment (by ruling authorities) or war is not murder.

We are to judge not the heart, but Christians are allowed to judge the open sins in people who claim the name of Christ (example: 1 Corinthians 5:9-12).
 
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lol afraid of what?


Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Bible definition of sin = transgression of God's Law. 1 John 3:4

" For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins " Hebrews 10:26

" It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened,
who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age
and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are
crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
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Hebrews 6:4-6

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