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Good question.Did the word "Universe" exist when the KJV was written?
I grew up with King Jimmy and usually consult it first. But I have been working in oriental churches since '81 and if English is not their first language the KJV is unintelligible to them. For modern translations I lean toward the NIV. My first Greek professor Dr. Roger Omanson was on the NIV translation committee. He often mentioned the difficulties they had.
I don't think copyrights are eternal. In the USA they expire after a time limit. I think they can be renewed though.Actually a Royal prerogative, not copyright of the authorized version, but considered public domain as it can be quoted in limited text within the commonwealth unlike other translations designed to profit from copyright.
Good question.
I don't think copyrights are eternal.
While I do compare versions, I only hold the King James Version of the Bible to be my source of scripture. To give an example of why I am "KJV only" :
"Universe" is mentioned 4 times in the NLT, 4 times in the NIV, 2 times in the ESV, 2 times in the CSB, 4 times in the RSV, and 1 time in the HNV.
I'll use only the NIV for sake of example:
NIV: 1Co 4:9 - For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings.
Greek word: kosmos - translated from "to the world".
NIV: Eph 4:10 - He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.
Greek word: pas - translated from "all things".
NIV: Heb 1:2 - but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
Greek word: aion - translated from "the world".
NIV: Heb 11:3 - By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Greek word: aion - translated from "the worlds"
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The word "universe" is not in the Authorized King James Bible
What is "universe" in etymology:
1580s, "the whole world, cosmos, the totality of existing things," from Old French univers (12c.), from Latin universum "all things, everybody, all people, the whole world," noun use of neuter of adjective universus "all together, all in one, whole, entire, relating to all," literally "turned into one," from unus"one" (from PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique") + versus, past participle of vertere "to turn, turn back, be turned; convert, transform, translate; be changed" (from PIE root *wer- (2) "to turn, bend").
universe | Origin and meaning of universe by Online Etymology Dictionary
What is "universe" in the Dictionary:
1: the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated : COSMOS: such as
a: a systematic whole held to arise by and persist through the direct intervention of divine power
b: the world of human experience
c(1): the entire celestial cosmos
(2): MILKY WAY GALAXY
(3): an aggregate of stars comparable to the Milky Way galaxy
Definition of UNIVERSE
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Why this example:
I have chosen this example because while the term "universe" is correct, though only from etymology, (all things/the whole thing) it's still deceptive for those who read scripture without studying translation and original meaning.
This example also resulted because someone brought up to me today that scripture taught the "universe" as it's understood today. This is wrong, it doesn't and I believe I've proven it doesn't. I think some are just too quick to read into scripture, rather than read scripture.
The problem that most people have isn't that they are reading the wrong Bible translation. Rather, the problem is that they are not reading the Bible.One of my former pastors said every time he uses something other than KJV he has doctrinal problems.
While I do compare versions, I only hold the King James Version of the Bible to be my source of scripture. To give an example of why I am "KJV only" :
"Universe" is mentioned 4 times in the NLT, 4 times in the NIV, 2 times in the ESV, 2 times in the CSB, 4 times in the RSV, and 1 time in the HNV.
I'll use only the NIV for sake of example:
NIV: 1Co 4:9 - For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings.
Greek word: kosmos - translated from "to the world".
NIV: Eph 4:10 - He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.
Greek word: pas - translated from "all things".
NIV: Heb 1:2 - but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.
Greek word: aion - translated from "the world".
NIV: Heb 11:3 - By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Greek word: aion - translated from "the worlds"
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The word "universe" is not in the Authorized King James Bible
What is "universe" in etymology:
1580s, "the whole world, cosmos, the totality of existing things," from Old French univers (12c.), from Latin universum "all things, everybody, all people, the whole world," noun use of neuter of adjective universus "all together, all in one, whole, entire, relating to all," literally "turned into one," from unus"one" (from PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique") + versus, past participle of vertere "to turn, turn back, be turned; convert, transform, translate; be changed" (from PIE root *wer- (2) "to turn, bend").
universe | Origin and meaning of universe by Online Etymology Dictionary
What is "universe" in the Dictionary:
1: the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated : COSMOS: such as
a: a systematic whole held to arise by and persist through the direct intervention of divine power
b: the world of human experience
c(1): the entire celestial cosmos
(2): MILKY WAY GALAXY
(3): an aggregate of stars comparable to the Milky Way galaxy
Definition of UNIVERSE
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Why this example:
I have chosen this example because while the term "universe" is correct, though only from etymology, (all things/the whole thing) it's still deceptive for those who read scripture without studying translation and original meaning.
This example also resulted because someone brought up to me today that scripture taught the "universe" as it's understood today. This is wrong, it doesn't and I believe I've proven it doesn't. I think some are just too quick to read into scripture, rather than read scripture.
I’m going to be doing the same thing on “Bible Day”, basically a day I will set aside every week to be a day for God. Likely Saturday but perhaps Sunday every week. I also will be reading scripture, and writing questions. I won’t be online that one day if I can help it.Good morning,
Thank you so much for all the information you provide, I agree with everything you have said, I use the NKJV for my souce of scripture and study; however do also reference and compare other versions at times.
I am in attempt reading the Bible, jotting down all questions I may have and trying to find the answers, one book one chapter at a time, and I just started.
Have a blessed day.....take care.
I’m going to be doing the same thing on “Bible Day”, basically a day I will set aside every week to be a day for God. Likely Saturday but perhaps Sunday every week. I also will be reading scripture, and writing questions. I won’t be online that one day if I can help it.
If you go in order, I’d be happy to be your study buddy. We can begin at exodus or numbers?Hello!!. That is so great!! So pleased to have met you God is good ...
I have put together a web site that I am using for the study: www.learnthebible.online
James
If you go in order, I’d be happy to be your study buddy. We can begin at exodus or numbers?
Exodus is fine. I finished it already but restarting is just fine. Message me and we can email questions back and forth.Hello
Sounds wonderful, I had already started in Exodus if that’s okay with you? Our Church is in Exodus thus my reason for being there. A lot of people like to start with John; however any place is a good place.
I understand how important it is to reference other books then the one in study due to the entire Bible telling one story.
Welcome my friend !
James
Exodus is fine. I finished it already but restarting is just fine. Message me and we can email questions back and forth.
Sounds great!Hi,
I have been posting all questions on the web site www.learnthebible.online so that anyone can join and share and learn. Some questions may seem or be like why is he asking that lol but the only dumb question is the one not asked.
My study times for the most part are evenings not all but most.
Am hoping this is okay with you? You seem to be very knowledgeable and want to learn more I like that!!
James
Sounds great!
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