That's called Sadism.simchat_torah said:[/font]
Some people seek persecution. Those who are truly persecuted do so with a smile.
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That's called Sadism.simchat_torah said:[/font]
Some people seek persecution. Those who are truly persecuted do so with a smile.
I'm a Netzarim Talmid and (Orthodox) geir.sojeru said:Greetings Adon "Goose",
Are you are student or a Paqid or a Hacham?
Never even heard of the guy. Could you please cite for me your resources? The fact that you give someone the same respect whether self-proclaimed or not, tells something about you.My Rabbi spoke with His Eminence Hacham Yermiyahu- though we give him his proper respect (whether he is self-proclaimed or not) we find what he teaches is not agreed with amoungst us.
I'm not a Nazarean. There's a difference between Nazarene and Nazarean, as cited by the late Oxford historian James Parkes.We are Nazareans aswell.
Recognized as what and by whom. Could you please cite this and point me to who these people are? If not, I'll have to take it as a lie. If you're referring to Greg Killian, please cite where he underwent Orthodox conversion by an Orthodox Rabbi. Thank you.Though recognized by Orthodox Judaism of all branches we are being observed with a very ugly eye.
The same eye that is given to the Chabad Lubavitch Beit Noach movement.
We are quite known to those in Judaism
our Paqid is known by Hillel ben David
our Hacham is Dr.Yosef ben Haggai
a student of His Eminece Hacham Ovadiyah Yosef- the leader of the Shas in Eretz Yisrael.
Of course I'm making that claim. It's a claim backed up by citations and resources that are publicly available and accountable for. You make claims, but they are baseless, with no varifiable evidence.simchat_torah said:WAIT A MINUTE HERE... you're the one making the claim of legitimacy! No one here has stated anything remotely close to this!
We don't have anything to prove... you do.
This is a laugh. We have papers and documentation that I've cited that is publically available! You're the one that has not cited anything from a reliable Orthodox source! The purden of proof is on YOU when you make claims against someone(in this case, that we're not legit, wish is laughable). Quit with the baseless hatred and the lashon hara. Until you have some actual cited proof with substance(which doesn't exist), then be quiet and quit falsely accusing, which is a transgression of Torah.We're waiting.
That's a hateful loaded question. The authentic Netzarim ARE orthodox, as blessed by the Chief Rabbi of the time, Rav Mordecai Eliyahu. If you think otherwise, you are a blasphemer of the Torah and go against the very Beit Din system that HaShem gave to Moshe, which is continuous to this very day.simchat_torah said:Did you convert through the Orthodox Beit Din, or the Netzarim?
Goose said:Quit with the baseless hatred and the lashon hara. Until you have some actual cited proof with substance(which doesn't exist), then be quite and quit falsely accusing, which is a transgression of Torah.
If you're referring to Greg Killian, please cite where he underwent Orthodox conversion by an Orthodox Rabbi. Thank you.
To be honest, I only used the definition you provided
Quote:Originally Posted by: simchat_torah
Sadists, such as the Netzarim...
More baseless hatred.
Hix said:The Netzarim are not accepted by the Orthodox Beit Din. Im currently speaking online with Rabbi Elirok ben Moshe from Eretz Yisrael who says that it is a complete and utter fraud.
Shalom and G-d bless
~Hix~
Of course I'm making that claim. It's a claim backed up by citations and resources that are publicly available and accountable for.
Quote:We don't have anything to prove... you do.
</FONT>Then provide them already... quit talking about them and show us!
We're waiting.
This is a laugh. We have papers and documentation that I've cited that is publically available!
Of course I haven't provided anything. Its hard to provide something that doesn't exist. Your 'proof' doesn't exist. I have called you on it. There is no validicy to the Netzarim being recognized as an authority in the Orthodox Beit Din. How can I provide something that is totally non-existant. You first made the claim, now I want to see the proof.You're the one that has not cited anything from a reliable Orthodox source! The purden of proof is on YOU when you make claims against someone(in this case, that we're not legit, wish is laughable).
Quit with the baseless hatred and the lashon hara. Until you have some actual cited proof with substance(which doesn't exist), then be quiet and quit falsely accusing, which is a transgression of Torah.
Let's see... I am now directly opposing myself to the Netzarim you speak of. Mind showing the the verse in the Torah which I have broken? Which one mentions the Netzarim? curious...Going against the blessing of the Rav and attacking the authentic Netzarim is baseless and goes against Torah.
Wow, a loaded response.
Quote:Originally Posted by: simchat_torah
Did you convert through the Orthodox Beit Din, or the Netzarim?
That's a hateful loaded question. The authentic Netzarim ARE orthodox, as blessed by the Chief Rabbi of the time, Rav Mordecai Eliyahu. If you think otherwise, you are a blasphemer of the Torah and go against the very Beit Din system that HaShem gave to Moshe, which is continuous to this very day.
hehe... Quite ture Toney.Yafet does not need me to rush to his defense. I am certain he has his own sauce for the goose.