Audio: Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife asked judge for protection from domestic abuse

[Michie]

Officials have recently turned to releasing information about his alleged domestic abuse. The audio file is from one of those court hearings.​

Audio obtained by USA TODAY from a 2020 court hearing in Maryland shows Jennifer Vasquez Sura pleading with a judge for temporary protection from her husband, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the wrongfully deported Salvadoran migrant at the center of a deportation storm.

Abrego Garcia “grabbed me from my hair, and then he slapped me,” Vasquez Sura said in her 2020 testimony to a judge.

For weeks, the White House and Homeland Security officials have defended deporting the 29-year-old Maryland father to a Salvadoran prison, after acknowledging in court that it was done in error and against an immigration judge's court order.

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Audio: Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife asked judge for protection from domestic abuse

Audio from a 2020 court hearing depicts Jennifer Vasquez Sura pleading with a judge for temporary protection from her husband, Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

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[FireDragon76]

He's never been adjudicated guilty of any of those things, and the charges were later dropped. He's entitled to due process, and a court ruled in 2019 he couldn't be deported as an asylum seeker. So he deserves due process, not being disappeared into a Salvadoran gulag.

Here's what ChatGPT says about these claims:

Kilmar Ábrego García’s wife, Jennifer Vásquez Sura, filed multiple civil protective‐order petitions between late 2019 and 2021 in which she accused him of repeated physical and verbal abuse—including slapping, pushing, punching, scratching, ripping her clothing, and even threatening to kill her. In a 2020 audio recording obtained by USA Today, Vásquez Sura described being attacked in front of family and neighbors and recounted making several police reports before seeking judicial protection New York PostWikipedia, la enciclopedia libre.

However, these allegations remain unadjudicated civil claims—Garcia was never criminally charged or convicted for domestic violence, and Vásquez Sura later rescinded at least one of the orders, ultimately defending her husband and attributing the incidents to a “difficult period.” His legal team and advocacy groups emphasize that no court has found him guilty of any crime in relation to these accusations

Kilmar has family that loves him and wants him back in the US, and he has three children, two of whom are disabled, that are without their father, that's all that matters.

 

[Valletta]

He's never been adjudicated guilty of any of those things, and the charges were later dropped. He's entitled to due process, and a court ruled in 2019 he couldn't be deported as an asylum seeker. So he deserves due process, not being disappeared into a Salvadoran gulag.

Here's what ChatGPT says about these claims:



Kilmar has family that loves him and wants him back in the US, and he has three children, two of whom are disabled, that are without their father, that's all that matters.

No, such a violent man should not be put back with his wife and children. Their lives matter. It is so sad, so many Democrat leaders stand up for violent criminals yet won't lift a finger to free the innocent hostages taken by Hamas. How about sending a Congressional delegation to ask for their release?

 

[Valletta]

Why do you believe alleged violence is sufficient to strip someone of due process?

Garcia has been before something like 14 judges. "Due process" has never been defined, the Supreme Court rulings at least show illegals do not get the same "due process" as American citizens. Garcia has had two court deportation orders.

 

[Valletta]

Trump supporters don't care.

All that time and effort spent on such a violent man. Just think if Democrats instead had spent their time trying to get the innocent hostages released from Hamas.

 

[FireDragon76]

Garcia has been before something like 14 judges. "Due process" has never been defined, the Supreme Court rulings at least show illegals do not get the same "due process" as American citizens.

They did nothing of the sort.

According to ChatGPT:

No—in the U.S. constitutional framework, the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments protect “persons,” not just citizens. Non‑citizens (aliens), whether here lawfully or unlawfully, are entitled to due process of law when they fall within U.S. jurisdiction lawshelf.comLegal Information Institute.

Indeed, as early as 1886 the Supreme Court held that the Fourteenth Amendment’s guarantee that no state “shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law” applies to all persons “within its jurisdiction,” including non‑citizens. In Yick Wo v. Hopkins the Court struck down racially discriminatory enforcement of a San Francisco ordinance against Chinese laundry owners, affirming that the Amendment’s protections extend equally to non‑citizens Justia Law.

That said, in the narrow context of enemy aliens detained outside the United States, the Court in Johnson v. Eisentrager (1950) held that those individuals—who had never been on U.S. soil—could not invoke U.S. courts’ habeas or due‑process protections. But this decision rests on geographic limits of jurisdiction, not on any blanket rule excluding all non‑citizens from due process Justia Law.

More recently, in Boumediene v. Bush (2008) the Court recognized that even foreign terrorism suspects held at Guantánamo Bay have the constitutional right to challenge their detention via habeas corpus—underscoring that fundamental procedural safeguards cannot be switched off simply because a detainee is a non‑citizen Justia Law.

Bottom line: The Supreme Court has never held that due process “doesn’t apply” to non‑citizens generally. Rather, aliens are persons under our Constitution and enjoy due‑process protections when within U.S. jurisdiction; only in very limited, extraterritorial circumstances has the Court restricted those rights.

 

[Valletta]

Remember that time the ACLU defended the KKK?

Rights are bigger and more important than the individual. So even if Garcia is part of MS-13, a violent man, and an all around degenerate, he still has rights and should be able to rely on the government to uphold those rights.

If we look the other way when Violent Man(TM) has their rights violated by the government, then we might as well abandon the American project altogether because we've failed.

So I go right back to my statement, "Trump supporters don't care."

The ACLU occasionally takes such a case much so they can pretend to be objective. What so many Democrats are overlooking is that, according to past decisions of the Supreme Court, due process is not the same for someone who illegally enters the country as it is for an American citizen. So too what due process entails has not been defined. After all of the trickery and deceit and perversion of our laws in order to get illegals in, now those same people demand "due process" must be enforced. Apparently Garcia seeing 14 justices and being provided two deportation orders is not enough for them. I do care much more for the victims of illegals and the hostages held by Hamas than I do for a Tren de Aragua gang member and a wife beater. We are not going to go on with trials for every illegal, and I also think it is a mistake in taking so long to prosecute Mayorkas and crew. We have so much corruption in government, Republicans and Democrats, because officials are rarely held accountable.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Democrats love supporting MS 13 members don't they?

 

[Yarddog]

No, such a violent man should not be put back with his wife and children.

That is not yours to judge. That is for his wife and the judge. I'm all for protection from violent spouses but that is their call.

 

[Yarddog]

Democrats love supporting MS 13 members don't they?

Nope. They love supporting the rule of law. Republicans love trashing the Constitution, don't they?

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[Valletta]

The ACLU does not seek nor pretend to be objective. Their bias is literally part of their name. They are the American Civil Liberties Union. They are biased in favor of civil liberty.

They defend reputable and disreputable people. They do this because it's not about the individual people, it's about the civil liberties.

And the Democrat Party is the flower of democracy, only selflessly promoting democracy in our country and throughout the world?

 

[Valletta]

That is not yours to judge. That is for his wife and the judge. I'm all for protection from violent spouses but that is their call.

He will remain in prison until the government of El Salvador decides otherwise. Doesn't look like too rough of a prison to me.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Nope. They love supporting the rule of law. Republicans love trashing the Constitution, don't they?

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I don't think anyone loves the rule of the law, especially in regards to their friends. MS 13 is friends to the democrats, ergo you support them.

 

[Yarddog]

I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion. All Republicans love the constitution. All Republican presidents take the following oath:

Pointing out how ridiculous Kiwi's statement about Democrats was. I'm sure that you'd agree with that.

 

[Yarddog]

He will remain in prison until the government of El Salvador decides otherwise. Doesn't look like too rough of a prison to me.

He will remain there as long as Trump disobeys the Constitution.

 

[Valletta]

He will remain there as long as Trump disobeys the Constitution.

Garcia's wife said ""Me and my kids are afraid now. He's kicked me, pushed me, slapped me in the face, threatened me." How about Democrats demand that Hamas release innocent hostages?

 

[Yarddog]

I don't think anyone loves the rule of the law, especially in regards to their friends. MS 13 is friends to the democrats, ergo you support them.

Hitler lovers are friends with Republicans, ergo you support Fascism. We can do this all day. It is ridiculous to claim Democrats support MS-13 just because they wan by
t Republicans to obey the Constitution and give all people their Constitutional rights to due process.

Republicans are not Judge, jury, and executioner. They need to obey the law. The Congress make the law, the Executive branch carries them out, and the Judicial branch ensures their Constitutionality.

Arrest the criminals and take to court to ensure that justice is served.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Hitler lovers are friends with Republicans, ergo you support Fascism. We can do this all day. It is ridiculous to claim Democrats support MS-13 just because they wan by
t Republicans to obey the Constitution and give all people their Constitutional rights to due process.

Well all Democrats know is Hitler and comparisons to him. They have no actual concept of history so what does it matter if you let your true feelings loose? If Trump is Hitler then you have a moral obligation to treat him like the allies and later Soviets did. No mercy either for his supporters.

Republicans are not Judge, jury, and executioner. They need to obey the law. The Congress make the law, the Executive branch carries them out, and the Judicial branch ensures their Constitutionality.

Arrest the criminals and take to court to ensure that justice is served.

I think you put too much stock on a piece of paper as this is never how politics works. Nor are Democrats perfect in implementing the law. I just wonder why you care so much about a bunch of Satanic gang members. Do you think the average person cares for their rights or that they're out of the country? Why do you want to ensure MS 13 is allowed to operate within the USA? Is Trump worse than MS 13?

 

[Yarddog]

I think you put too much stock on a piece of paper as this is never how politics works.

Patriots support all of the US Constitution, not just the parts they choose. Rebels and criminals reject to follow the law. Refusing to give all people due process makes one a law breakers,.no different than MS-13 gang members.

I just wonder why you care so much about a bunch of Satanic gang members.

Jesus told us to love our enemies. You reject Jesus if you fail to love them. Giving people accused of being a Satanic gang member their due process, ensures that they are who they are accused of and is showing them the love that Jesus commanded.

Do you think the average person cares for their rights or that they're out of the country?

The Constitution protects all people from what the average person thinks. If you hate the Constitution, leave. Go find a place that fits your thinking, like El Salvador.

Why do you want to ensure MS 13 is allowed to operate within the USA?

I don't want any criminal gangs to operate in US, but as a patriot, I want to ensure rights to the accused, so that the innocent are not prosecuted.

Is Trump worse than MS 13?

In many ways he is worse. I wish that he would follow Jesus, instead of worshipping himself.

 

[Valletta]

Patriots support all of the US Constitution, not just the parts they choose. Rebels and criminals reject to follow the law. Refusing to give all people due process makes one a law breakers,.no different than MS-13 gang members.

By your standards Obama, who deported millions, MOST of who never say an immigration judge, failed to provide "due process" to the majority of those he deported. I am so sick of this two-tiered justice system where certainly more Democrats have violated due process than Republicans.