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EchoPneuma said:I know what you mean....some people will argue that the sky is green....and maybe in their world it IS..
Thanks, so you agree with all the things on the list?
Want to add any?
debi b said:Thanks for asking, but it would be counterproductive
EchoPneuma said:I don't believe so. If there is a statement on the list that you doctrinally believe is UNTRUE then say you disagree and it will be stricken. If you believe it is TRUE, but something should be added....like it doesn't say enough....then add another statement to the list and we will see if it is universal. If your statement is KNOWN to be a "bone of contention" among the differing denominations I will say so and not add it to the list.
If you only want to reword statements in order to make them more doctrinally correct from your point of view, then we aren't going to do that....the point is to make general statements of truth that ALL Christians can agree upon and that unite us.
Now, if you put in your 2 cents how can that be counterproductive?....unless, of course, you say we should throw out the whole list because you believe none of it is true....in which case you can't honestly call yourself a Christian.
debi b said:LOLI take acception to the term christian and prefer believer ...... I could go on. I would use the term Yeshua instead of Jesus, Elohim instead of God - like that. In general terms I do agree
OK I 'll take a crack at one. Sin displeases Elohim. How about sin separates us from Elohim?
But since we are an English speaking people, why revert to the Hebrew language? Does not God understand all languages?debi b said:...... I could go on. I would use the term Yeshua instead of Jesus, Elohim instead of God - like that. In general terms I do agree
OK I 'll take a crack at one. Sin displeases Elohim. How about sin separates us from Elohim?
I cant stand behind somthing that sounds like Jesus being the "embodiment of spiritual reality", It soulds too "new-agey" if you know what I mean.EchoPneuma said:I guess so.
I understand. Perhaps you would like to add a statement to the list? Something like "Jesus is the embodiment of spiritual reality" and see if it is universal?
EchoPneuma said:Catherine, I don't think you understand the purpose of the list.
EchoPneuma said:2 God (Elohim) created man as male and female
EchoPneuma said:I won't strike #9 because God DOES want obedience from His followers.
BarryK said:I cant stand behind somthing that sounds like Jesus being the "embodiment of spiritual reality", It soulds too "new-agey" if you know what I mean.
Jesus IS Lord is fine with me
Jesus IS Truth is fine with me
Jesus IS the Alpha and the Omega is fine with me
get my drift?
Catherineanne said:You don't know what I understand and what I do not understand. We were asked to comment, and I did.
We were told we did not have to give reasons, but I gave reasons, in order to not just be negative.
You can all take or leave what you want, but I am entitled to express my views.
Was I wrong to want the Holy Spirit included, or to have words that actually mean something?
Catherineanne said:You have changed the goalposts.
And I have lost interest.
Jesus was the TRUTH, He didn't just teach and live it. Any reason why you stated that? Just curious.I understand. "Jesus is Lord" is already on there at #21 and you know why I can't add "Jesus IS truth".....but I will add "Jesus is the Alpha and Omega". Fair enough?
LittleLambofJesus said:Jesus was the TRUTH, He didn't just teach and live it. Any reason why you stated that? Just curious.
John 14:6 Jesus saith to him, `I am the way, and The Truth, and the life, no one doth come unto the Father, if not through me;
20. Jesus (Yeshua) taught and lived the truth
I know...but so far we've got a pretty long list of things that everyone seems to agree are true. I wish some Mormon's and JW"s would comment on the list. I really want to see if a list can be compiled of those beliefs that are truly UNIVERSAL among ALL Christians. Perhaps those things are the things that have been revealed by God to EVERYONE....and all the other things are just personal interpretations.Henaynei said:{whisper to EchoPneuma from a former mod}
You see WHY this is the issue it is on the forum? there is no way to please everyone - the messes that trying to do so has cause you would not believe!!!
b'Shalom
Henaynei
Zakuska said:EchoPneuma vbmenu_register("postmenu_25126097", true);
Amen! I agree with ever single one of those 31 items.
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