Attack of the Creationists [a plea for help]

[grimbly]

I don't know where there coming from but where getting more and more of them. Might be a breeding thing. I hear they're like rabbits.

 

[Valkhorn]

I don't know where there coming from but where getting more and more of them. Might be a breeding thing. I hear they're like rabbits.

Haha. I've been through Minnesota a couple of times. I spent a short time there in the winter too and I thought it was a character building experience. Only saw a wind chill of maybe 45 below once or twice but it kind of exhilarating.

 

[grimbly]

I'll tell you what it does to your brain. Got up one morning to go to work, flipped on the radio and heard it was -35F with a wind chill of -70. Ugly cloudy gray morning. Neither I nor my car sitting outdoors were too happy about moving that day but I did make it out to work.

Over lunch went out to start the car and warm up the engine. By now it's crystal clear skies, sun shining and no wind. I'm sitting in the car with the engine idling listening to the radio when the weather guy comes on and says, "It's currently a balmy -15F with clear skies forecast for the rest of the afternoon". After about 15 minutes, got the engine warmed up, shut off the car and headed back to the lab. As I'm walking through the lobby, I met a coworker going out to do the same thing. As we passed he asked me what it was like out there and without giving it even a second thought said "You know, it's pretty nice out there", took a couple of steps, stopped cold in my tracks and thought WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING??? 95% of the civilized world would consider these uninhabitable living conditions and they'd be right.

Anyway be aware the winters can play strange tricks on the mind.

 

[Valkhorn]

I'll tell you what it does to your brain. Got up one morning to go to work, flipped on the radio and heard it was -35F with a wind chill of -70. Ugly cloudy gray morning. Neither I nor my car sitting outdoors were too happy about moving that day but I did make it out to work.

Over lunch went out to start the car and warm up the engine. By now it's crystal clear skies, sun shining and no wind. I'm sitting in the car with the engine idling listening to the radio when the weather guy comes on and says, "It's currently a balmy -15F with clear skies forecast for the rest of the afternoon". After about 15 minutes, got the engine warmed up, shut off the car and headed back to the lab. As I'm walking through the lobby, I met a coworker going out to do the same thing. As we passed he asked me what it was like out there and without giving it even a second thought said "You know, it's pretty nice out there", took a couple of steps, stopped cold in my tracks and thought WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING??? 95% of the civilized world would consider these uninhabitable living conditions and they'd be right.

Anyway be aware the winters can play strange tricks on the mind.

I can imagine. Down here where I live it can be 80 in January. We also get about 60 inches or so of rain per year. So when places far to the north gripe about getting 2 inches of rain I have to remind myself we got that twice in the last two weeks. In fact there have been days where we've gotten more than 10".

Katrina played with my mind too. It really knocked us for a loop but I'll never forget what it was like to see gusts of wind at 135mph or a barometric pressure reading of 27.92".

At any rate, I'm wondering if anyone wants to have a go at that forum. I have to build my mental strength back

 

[Valkhorn]

Illustrious Zorro just posted this:

Actually, what you see here is that they share a common Maker or Creator. Only your presuppositions - your faith, your philosophy, your religion, your basic worldview commitment - keeps you admitting that this is the case.

I have invited them over to this forum but I'm not sure they will take the challenge.

Is anyone willing to help me out there?

 

[AV1611VET]

They don't need to come over here --- there's a one-man army here already - (Navy actually)!

 

[OdwinOddball]

They don't need to come over here --- there's a one-man army here already - (Navy actually)!

In a leaky dinghy no less

 

[Valkhorn]

In a leaky dinghy no less

Enjoy some reps.

 

[Mystman]

Fact: you can't force other people to think.

If other people just read your posts, but never actually let the contents of the posts enter their brains, you stand no chance of convincing them of anything.

If you get the idea that people aren't thinking (for example, when they refuse to accept a logical conclusion that is based on premises that they do accept), just move on. You're just wasting your time (and spoiling your good mood!)

 

[Valkhorn]

Fact: you can't force other people to think.

If other people just read your posts, but never actually let the contents of the posts enter their brains, you stand no chance of convincing them of anything.

If you get the idea that people aren't thinking (for example, when they refuse to accept a logical conclusion that is based on premises that they do accept), just move on. You're just wasting your time (and spoiling your good mood!)

True... sometimes I wish you could 'convince' but that's illegal in this country...

 

[DrkSdBls]

Oh, Props to you Valkhorn for the Princess Bride Reference!

 

[Valkhorn]

Oh, Props to you Valkhorn for the Princess Bride Reference!

Haha. I thought it was appropriate

 

[DrkSdBls]

Haha. I thought it was appropriate

Yet, I doubt any one of them even got it.


And will any one else help out Valkhorn on this? I feel I doing battle with a Pack of Wolves with one arm tied behind my back. I'm not Equiped to hold out against these numbskulls, either Scientifically nor Verbally.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you all go over there to pile on the Christians, let me give you some good advice.

The Bible is sharper than a two-edged sword, and in the hands of those who know how to use it --- well --- I'll just say this.

Please don't come back here bleeding all over us.

Remember: we're the salt of the earth too!

[bible]Matthew 5:13[/bible]

 

[USincognito]

I'll check it out when I get home, but I don't like to take strange URLs at work. I'll definately sign up and add my two cents if I get a chance.

 

[Impaler]

I'll give it a shot. I doubt we'll ever change any minds but at least we might be able to make a few of them back off.

 

[Abongil]

If you all go over there to pile on the Christians, let me give you some good advice.

The Bible is sharper than a two-edged sword, and in the hands of those who know how to use it --- well --- I'll just say this.

Please don't come back here bleeding all over us.

Remember: we're the salt of the earth too!

[bible]Matthew 5:13[/bible]

First off, saying a sword is two-edged does not increase its sharpness. Second, the Bible is a book, not a weapon. Third, you just seem to be a troll so I am just going to ignore you from now on.

 

[Valkhorn]

Yet, I doubt any one of them even got it.


And will any one else help out Valkhorn on this? I feel I doing battle with a Pack of Wolves with one arm tied behind my back. I'm not Equiped to hold out against these numbskulls, either Scientifically nor Verbally.

Thanks. I haven't been by there in a day - I needed to rest up lol.

I'll check it out when I get home, but I don't like to take strange URLs at work. I'll definately sign up and add my two cents if I get a chance.

Thanks. The reason why I did it with a tiny URL was the regular link wasn't taking for some odd reason.

I'll give it a shot. I doubt we'll ever change any minds but at least we might be able to make a few of them back off.

Thanks

 

[Pete Harcoff]

I registered and post my 2 cents about the application of common descent. I expect it will be completely ignored as is par when debating creationists. And I notice zorro is definitely backed into a corner, as she now resorts to trotting out Bible quotes to insult the opposition.

 

[Valkhorn]

I registered and post my 2 cents about the application of common descent. I expect it will be completely ignored as is par when debating creationists. And I notice zorro is definitely backed into a corner, as she now resorts to trotting out Bible quotes to insult the opposition.

Thanks. I gave you some reputation there too. But it will be interesting how they handle it.

Even though I can guess how they will.