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Attachment Parenting

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I have just begun to research attachment parenting. Do any of you parent in this manner, and if so, why? Have you parented all of your children in this manner? Would you ever consider parenting your next one differently?

I would love to hear all various viewpoints...so those of you who don't like attachment parenting, tell me what you think too.

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Well, to be honest I was never really clear on the definition of AP, so I went & scanned some info really quickly....I guess from what I've read, I'm not really AP...

We didn't (& don't) do the family bed thing...we actually did the cry it out method (I know, some will be horrified to read that! lol) to get Andie used to sleeping on her own in her own bed. I simply believe that the parents have their own bed, the children have theirs. My husband & I need a place to go so we can be a couple, be intimate, re-connect without having a child there. We want to be loving adults, not just "mommy & daddy", does that make sense?

Also, we do belive in spanking. That's not to say we go around swatting Andie all the time, but she has been swatted a time or two and now knows the consequence. This is only in rare cases...normally a count of 1,2,3 and threat of timeout works!! lol

Also I was reading how AP is kind of anti-"gadgets" for the kids, they are really hands-on. Which I surely don't have a problem with, but I also see nothing wrong with Andie playing by herself with her dollhouse, watching Noggin (our newest friends are Max & Ruby!, but I guess they're on Nick), watching a DVD, coloring, painting, etc etc etc. That's not to say I don't get down on the floor & play with her, which I do quite a few times during the day! But I also think it's important for kids to be able to amuse themselves and as long as the toys have some kind of "learning" capability, then I don't think there's anything wrong with it...and at Andie's age, almost ANYthing is educational for her!! lol

Anyways, that's my 2 cents....I guess I wouldn't "categorize" myself as an AP mom...but that's not to say that I love and cherish my daughter any less!! I still raise her with love and give her the same consideration as I do any other human being, I'm raising her to belive in God, to love people, to be polite, kind, and gentle.

I guess us as parents can just do our best...parenting, I belive, is a never-ending learning process...whether you have 1 or more, you're constantly "tweaking" your parenting style...at least, I am!!
 
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Debby, I know what you mean about the co-sleeping. So far, that is one thing that I feel really conflicted about. As Dr. Phil is so fond of saying, families face big problems when they "start being mommy and daddy, and stop being friends and lovers." I think it is very important to keep that intimacy alive. I also understand that leaving your child isolated and in the dark - the scariest time of the day for children - may not be the best thing. Perhaps we will have the baby sleep next to our bed, which would make night time feedings easier, and would still provide comfort for the child. Some parents allow their children to sleep with them when they are older toddlers, and I am not keen on that at all.

Keep the replies coming.....
 
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jazzbird said:
Debby, I know what you mean about the co-sleeping. So far, that is one thing that I feel really conflicted about. As Dr. Phil is so fond of saying, families face big problems when they "start being mommy and daddy, and stop being friends and lovers." I think it is very important to keep that intimacy alive. I also understand that leaving your child isolated and in the dark - the scariest time of the day for children - may not be the best thing. Perhaps we will have the baby sleep next to our bed, which would make night time feedings easier, and would still provide comfort for the child. Some parents allow their children to sleep with them when they are older toddlers, and I am not keen on that at all.

Keep the replies coming.....

I know parents have to find the right way for themselves for their children, I think it's great you're doing all this research!!

We did have Andie in a cradle right next to our bed for the first four weeks...then she went into her crib.

My husband's sister & her husband got one of those little "things" (for want of a better word! lol) that fits right inbetween mommy & daddy in bed, it has sides on it so you don't have to worry about rolling over onto the baby...

I think your idea of a crib by your bed is a happy medium...they also make like extensions that fit onto your bed to put the baby in...

Remember, there's no wrong way or right way, it's whatever way you feel is right for your situation!! :hug:
 
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I was a nanny and I am ALL FOR the cry it out method. It's not cruel and many who think so haven't really checked it out. If one more person tells me what a horrible mother I'm going to be becuase I want my kid to CIO, I may have to give THEM something to cry about and see how THEIR mommy responds.
Being a CIO, non co-sleeping, let the kid learn to be intellegent and independant does NOT mean we loathe our children and are just waiting for them to grow up. It doesn't mean we are heartless and don't love our children wholeheartedly. I already love my son so much it takes my breath away. I can't wait to breastfeed him, cloth diaper him and snuggle him half to death! I can't wait to nap on a couch and have him fall asleep on my chest. I can't wait to see him with my husband and their nekkid bellies and chests cuddled up together.
That being said, my marriage will always come first. I read too many PA testimonies about more stressful marriages. That was enough to make up my mind. Maybe it doesn't happen to everyone but I'm not going to enter into it to have it happen to me.
 
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We also allowed our children to cry it out. Now, we do not advocate letting them scream and cry for an hour. I don't think that's what crying it out means. We believe that babies and children can learn how to entertain and sooth themselves. And we don't believe that babies who stop crying on their own are simply "giving up all hope".

To me AP seems like more of a friendship or companionship than healthy parent/child relationship with Mom and Dad in healthy authority over the child. My relationship with my husband will aways take precedence over my relationship with my children. I think my children are very secure in Mom and Dad's close relationship.
 
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Wow, Em. I'm sorry that people have been giving you a hassle. I thought CIO was a pretty normal thing.....

Well, I certainly don't think there is one right way and one wrong way, or that certain ways of parenting will necessarily damage our children. I think we partly choose based on our own personalities and instincts.

I also think with AP there has to be a balance. You seem to have a pretty negative view of it, and I'm sure there are examples out there of it not working for families. If women pour every ounce of energy into their children and neglect their husband, of course, that is no good, but it doesn't have to be that way. No way will I ever let our children weaken my relationship with Ben, no matter how we are parenting. Balance is key. Parenting is a learning process anyway. We will make modifications and changes to how we parent as we go and as we learn.
 
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Well, I know I am the extreem minority here ;) but we are an AP family, do not believe in CIO, do not spank, have a family bed, breastfeed on demand (even at 16 months old), wear my children ...

Our first son was our "guinea pig" so to speak. We did try the cio thing but it didn't last long ... unfortunately I let him wean too early and also did not push the co-sleeping with him. When our second son came, we had learned a lot (imo) and changed a lot of our beliefs. Even though our older son has his own bed, usually one of us falls asleep with him or at least lays down with him while he is falling asleep. Our younger son has slept in our bed since the day he came home. He is nursed on demand; yea, there are times I wish my body was off-limits to him ;) but it's my selfishness I believe. I do not believe babies are capable of manipulating their parents. God designed them they way He did so that they would know how to communicate their needs - their needs to be feed, changed, and most importantly LOVED. I have seen enough first hand the affects of cio, and have read studies. I have also as a child and adult cried myself to sleep and would never want that to be experienced by my children.

Sometimes I sit back and think, What would Mary do. You know, she had the amazing and awesome responsibility of raising the Son of God. And you know, I don't believe that she would have let Him cry it out in His own room. I just don't see that happening. God does not let us cry it out by ourselves. He is always right there next to us, even in the darkest of times. That is how I believe we are to be with our children.

Isaiah 66:12 - 13 (NASB) 12 For thus says the LORD, “Behold, I extend peace to her like a river, And the glory of the nations like an overflowing stream; And you will be nursed, you will be carried on the hip and fondled on the knees. 13 “As one whom his mother comforts, so I will comfort you;”

I also want to address the idea that AP means neglecting your husband, or pouring all your energy into your children. To me, AP'ing is being attached to your children - not only physically (as evidenced by breastfeeding, co-sleeping and baby wearing) but also emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. It is to me, making their overall wellbeing a priority over, at times, your own needs. It is realizing the impact your words and actions have upon their development. It is understanding that they are babies - even at 3 1/2 years old - who need support, comfort, reassurance, and unfailing love. It is about builing trust with them - that they will instinctively know that you are there for them, even when they are upset for seemingly no reason at 3:30am. It is about building an interdependence with them where they know they are a valued part of a family that works together for the good of each other above their own gain.

Yes, there are times where my husband and I realize we haven't had time to connect. But it's not just because one of us went to sleep with one of the boys. It's life in general. So, we talk and make ways to spend more time together - whether that be by getting the boys down together (putting them both in our bed to sleep with each other) and then spending quiet, intimate time together in the living room, or scheduling a date and having our babysitter come over for the evening.

I also encourage my boys to play independently and with each other. There are times I will put down what I am doing and sit and play with them. They will only be this age for such a short time. But, there are times I tell them that they need to play for a while so that Mommy can get some work done. There is nothing wrong with putting on the TV (I'm actually trying to figure out how to turn it off more!) or getting them started playing on their own and letting them develop their imaginations. Personally, I do not consider my children my friends - maybe when they are older, married, and parents themsevles. But they know and we know that we are Mom and Dad and they are the children. Being AP (and by extension grace-based in parenting) does not mean giving up the "authority" of being the parent. It does not mean letting the child do whatever they want. It does mean fostering a relationship with them where they trust you have their best interests in mind, where they trust that you will be there whenever they need you, and where you are cued in to their needs/wants/desires. It's about reading their cues and responding.

If you are looking for a good description of AP'ing, I would highly suggest Dr. Sears. He is a Christian doctor and has some wonderful advice and insight into how to raise attached children and yet still maintain a sense of who you are and who you are married to.
 
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I suppose we did AP, but when we did it, the term was not in vogue. Breastfeeding, family bed, very little CIO - it depends upon what kind of crying - but never with infants! - hardly any spanking (my youngest was spanked twice)

There is, of course, no one right way to raise a child and since I believe that God puts families together, I believe that He has carefully chosen which people are to parent which child/ren. I tried with Boy 1 to follow the books and schedules and CIO and all of that. It did not work for any of us and we were 3 unhappy people. As we drifted into more of an AP style, things went much better and we were all much happier.

I fully agree that the husband and wife couple are the core of the family. It is essential that they have intimacy and time for one another. When peopole who knew we used a family bed would try and tactfully ask about sex I would pretend to be a little dumb, and then reply "Oh! You're talking about having sex, in bed, at night! We'll have to try that sometime!" There are other times of day, other locations in a home and a soundly sleeping baby can be temporarily relocated if you're really into beds.

I want my children to grow up and be independent, I just don't expect them to be that at 3 months, or 3 years or 5 years of age. I think children will be best able to step out into the world on their own if they have felt well loved and felt very secure when they were young - then they are well equiped to strike out on their own at an appropriate age - 18 +. When childhood needs, unique to every child, have been well met, they are able to grow into into healty young people and young adults. When childhod needs haver gone unmet, there can be problems for a lifetime.

Jazzbird - it's great that you are thinking ahead, but be prepared to change your mind and parenting style once you find out who God gives you.
 
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This is the first time I've heard about Attachment Parenting. Here's what we did, the first three months she slept in a cradle in our room. At 3 mths she was pretty much sleeping though the night so we put her in in own room. She has never cried herself to sleep and she has never slept with us. And when she did cry, we went to her because she was the type of child, when she cried there was something wrong.

I was told when I carried her not to rock her to sleep, not to walk with her and I was also told don't you dear pick her up everytime she cries. I did not listen to this advice, I felt these were good ways of showing my daughter I loved her and doing them never hurt anyone.
 
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EmSchmem said:
Being a CIO, non co-sleeping, let the kid learn to be intellegent and independant does NOT mean we loathe our children and are just waiting for them to grow up.
Can you clarify this statement for me please? :) It came across to me that you were saying that if you don't use CIO and cosleep that you are not letting your kids learn to be intelligent and independent. Or did I just totally miss the point altogether? ;) :D
 
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OK here is my experience. I am a stepparent of one child, and a mother of 2 other children. My oldest (sc) was about as far opposite of AP as is possible. His mother loathed breastfeeding so she didn't do it. She never shared a bed with him, started spanking WELL before 1 yr. old etc. Anyway, think of everything AP and go the opposite way and you have what he was raised. He IS what AP parents (from what I have heard them say) are afraid their child will turn into if they don't AP. He is very insecure, has a major fear of abandonment etc. My first child...well, we were very close to AP more from his needs than from a desire. I breastfed on demand, co-sleeping, carrying (he was colicky and needed it) etc etc. Until he was nine months and I had to have surgery and could no longer breastfeed because I was going to be on strong anti-biotics for 8 weeks. He actually turned into what most non-AP parents fear that their children will turn into. He was demanding of attention regardless of how much he had recieved (and at the time my sc was not living with us and it was just him, he got ALOT of attention), he continued to wake in the middle of the night until he was 19 months 20 months old and I knew that I was delivering in less than 2 months. I had to let him CIO at night and also, I had to actively train him to play by himself. Now he is a happy independant, yet loving and confident child. Yet, I don't blame the parenting methods, I should have seen it when he was younger, his personality doesn't fit with AP. He NEEDS a different method of parenting. Now my daughter, my baby. She was breastfed for the first four months until she lost the ability to suck due to an infection in her blood. She refused to co-sleep, hated being carried around, despised breastfeeding. Now she and I are having to repair a relationship that should have always been there. She NEEDED AP parenting. She NEEDED, especially when we found out she was sick, yet I went with the signals SHE was sending. I didn't realize that her pain and discomfort was causing her to seperate from us, it was very similar to what an abused child feels. All she knew is that she was hurting and mommy and daddy weren't helping.

Anyway, my point is, each child may need a different method. I personally feel that I should have withheld a bit from my middle child, and that I should have insisted on AP (minus breastfeeding as that wasn't an option) for my youngest. Perhaps if I would have insisted on her being close to me, she would have attached to me better. But, know this, children are resilient. IF you start with one method and find it doesn't work for your family, you can change your mindset. Lara (my baby) is now VERY attached to me. Justin (middle child) is VERY independant and happy. And, Gavin (My oldest) is still a work in progress but improving all the time. No one method is right, and no one method is wrong. I find the best way to raise children is to follow what you FEEL your children need. You may be half AP half Dobson. You may be 90% Dobson, yet still sling. Whatever works. Don't decide on a "method". Decide to use "methods" as starting points, ideas that you can expound on in a way that works for YOUR family.
 
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Can you clarify this statement for me please? :) It came across to me that you were saying that if you don't use CIO and cosleep that you are not letting your kids learn to be intelligent and independent. Or did I just totally miss the point altogether? ;) :D


I don't think she meant it the way you took it. Basically, the way I understood it is this. Most AP parents act like we loathe our children for CIO, while we believe we are teaching them to be independant. It is a good contrast of the two different ideas on CIO.
 
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We are total attatchment parents! I wear my babies all the time- unless they cry to be put down, or I need to put them down to help another child. All of our babies have slept with us, and transitioned nicely to sleeping on their own- we usually have an interim stage-where they have a bed in our room. Our kids have an attatchment to people, and not things- not blankies or bears- but to us. They are really awesome and compassionate children, and seem to empathise with others with an exceptionality. I think AP parenting is not mutually exclusive with being your husband's wife and lover- and we have 4 kids to 7 and under to prove it! LOL!

If you want to PM me with any specific questions about what we do I'll be more than happy to respond. I have very strong views on parenting that I would feel comfortable ta;king about with someone one on one- but not as a blanket statement for what everyone ought to be doing- does that make sense? I don't want to give anyone the impression that I am calling them a bad parent--because I don't feel that way at all- I just know my passion about this subject sometimes is misconstrued.

We ALL want the same thing- for our children to grow up and be independent and responsible adults, who are devoted soldiers for Christ. It is just a difference in approach! The very most main thing is to be selfless and to love your child with the tenderness that God has for you! If you love with the sacrifical love of the Cross- bedtimes really are inconsequential- you know??
 
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I kind of have a hang up with the whole idea of parenting by a method. Each child and parent are so different, that I feel it works best to get lots of ideas and then sort ouot waht works best for you in your situation.

What has worked for us is a combination of things. I breastfed (on demand) for the first year, then started weaning. Co-sleeping was not great for us, because I couldn't relax with a baby in the bed, so we usually started out with the baby in bed nursing, then after he fell into a deep sleep, moved him into his own bed. For the first 4 mo. our kids slept in our room, then after that moved them into their own beds. We did let them cry it out if we were sure they weren't hungry, sick, or scared. (most kids don't have a fear of the dark until they are around 2-3yrs)
As far as discipline goes, we do spank, but combined with lots of loving instruction, it is not necessary to do it very much.

I think if you are giving lots of love any method will work out fine. :)
 
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Sounds good sara! That's my plan. To use a combination of things that work. We will NOT be co-sleeping however unless 100% absolutely necessary. My husband is a VERY deep, yet restless sleeper. He has rolled over on me (like an arm or a leg or something) and hurt me a couple times. Many of those times I haven't been able to wake him up right away to get him off of said arm or leg. I can not see myself relaxing with my kid in my bed either. Also we have our best talks at night and have experienced the most marital growth through them. We'd like to be able to have them occassionally still. Neither of us are against spanking. We agree that it is never done in anger and that the child is very aware of whate consequences lead to spanking. We agree that it must always be followed up by loving reassurance and done with respect.
 
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EmSchmem said:
My husband is a VERY deep, yet restless sleeper. He has rolled over on me (like an arm or a leg or something) and hurt me a couple times. Many of those times I haven't been able to wake him up right away to get him off of said arm or leg.
Couldn't help but chuckle about this. Yes, sounds rather dangerous for baby!

Sara, I really like the idea of nursing them to sleep in bed and then transferring them to their own place to sleep.

Thank you for all your input so far ladies!
 
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Co-sleeping can involve a crib, bassinet or bed beside the parent's bed - on the mother's side. That way they are nice and safe, but you can also hear them getting restless when they are hungry and ready to nurse way before they are fully awake and crying.

At one point we had a queen mattress and a full mattress, on their box springs, on the floor ini one smalll bedroom. It was really a bedroom! There was lots of space for everyone.
 
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bliz said:
Co-sleeping can involve a crib, bassinet or bed beside the parent's bed - on the mother's side. That way they are nice and safe, but you can also hear them getting restless when they are hungry and ready to nurse way before they are fully awake and crying.

At one point we had a queen mattress and a full mattress, on their box springs, on the floor ini one smalll bedroom. It was really a bedroom! There was lots of space for everyone.
LOL! When I was talking to my husband once about how cool it would be to have a "bed"room-- he replied "There is a place where they have padded rooms, honey...." It was so funny, because our house is like an asylum sometimes!!

As someone in this thread wrote- the best thing is to figure out what works best for you as a family. It is different even in a family from child to child!!
 
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