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Athena returned the Spear
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w8 a minute...who said they were sacrificing their children. Oh ya...the Israelite, the guys who killed them AND claimed god told them so.
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shinbits
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Lot didn't commit incest, it was done without his knowledge. Still doesn't mean God approved of it.
Jephthah never thought to sacrifice his daughter, the idea only came up because of his own foolish game of chance, not because God wanted it. Furthermore, the Bible never says that he actually did this anyway.
The first born sons of Egypt weren't a "sacrifice". All they had to do was sprinkle blood (not human) on their doorways, and the Egyptian sons would've been spared.
Try again.
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shinbits
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More things I never said. Congrats, your posts are somehow getting even less credible.
I don't want to get into a discussion about it, because, oh, I dunno....It's shifting goalposts?
You shifted the goalposts, and apparently don't think anything's wrong. You shift goalposts, misquote, and still think you're making a decent argument.
Tsk, tsk.
If you really want a discussion of who Israel's land "really" belongs to, start another thread, and I'll join you there. Although this will prove that I'm not "uncomfortable" with the topic, thereby refuting you even further. So your call.
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Who said people are killed for no reason under jihad? They have reasons, justified by their faith in the god of Abraham.
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Looks like the old-habit-hard-to-break is to attack the messenger.
Its hardly a misquote when i just did a copy paste. Only you can find a strawman in there! You are finding them everywhere... you are getting to be like the boy who cried wolf.
If you "only" meant something you should say that, not something else.
You DID say that they got their land back.
Now if you said you got your car back, that would mean it used to be your car but when you got it back, it wasnt? If it wasnt your car anymore then you had to buy it or steal it.
No wonder you dont want to talk about it.
You trip yourself up if you do. Here you go tripping yourself up.."I did NOT get into a discussion of "who the land really belongs to"....which is what YOU were implying." I wasnt implying that you wanted to get into a discusison of who the land belonged to! Now THERE is a strawman!
Moral culpability is probably another reason for not talking about it.
That is a very uncomfortable topic! Best to call strawman strawman, junk post and pretend you didnt get challenged.
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shinbits
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Yet again: I did NOT get into any discussion of who the land "really" belongs to. I said "their" land, because Israel currently has it. YOU shifted goalposts and talked about irrelevant things like whether or not the Jews or the U.S. really own their land.
This is actually becoming sad. Rather than just admit you made a mistake, you'll fight tooth-and-nail to argue a point that's obviously not there.
Sad.
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Jihadists reasons are "on par," just ask them. It is a holy war, justified by god. What more reason do you need?
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Oh my, MORE word games. Ok! Notice i didnt say you misquoted?
Did you notice that (huh?)
"Their land" doesnst mean "their land". A direct quote is a straw man.
Dont try to play word games with me, for one thing, you can't possibly beat me at English language usage, and for another, I am not going to play.
Do you think you could stay on a topic now and stand clear of the personal remarks and word games?
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This is what's funny in a sick way, God decides that murdering children is bad. So he sends in his people to murder every single living person.
Including the children.
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