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Well I don't accept evolution anyway, so it's silly of me to get into an argument, but out of curiosity how do you know they're not programmed to advance?
I hope you never lose your faith then because you sound like a very scary person waiting to happen. I'm glad to say that even when I stepped away from my faith I still didn't think it was okay to commit immoral or illegal acts.If I was 100% sure He didn't exist. Yes. Of course. Why not?
No, I only don't do it because I have faith. Why resist taking what you want, if not for religion?
That is not what defines an atheist. Some atheists do feel this way, but you don't have to create a positive assertion about the non-existence of gods to be an atheist. All you need is to not belief in the existence of gods.
Hi,Cool story. I'm still an atheist.
Hi,
Nice to see/hear you from you again.
Some background on this work. I started this work, to see if I could find one person who matched the word as it is commonly used. It started when I was working in the Advanced Physics Lab at Hewlett Packard, and it was pretty much an accidental project. It was personal, and yes they actually task us with a minimum of 10% of our time spent on personal projects.
This one did not start that way. I was agnostic in those days. I had zero clues if God was real, or a figment of man's imagination, then. One of the researchers, who I might use occasionally in my work was a adamant and vocal atheist. It bothered me from a logical point of view. I was concerned if I had to check on this man's work or not. I set some time aside, and asked him that question. (I had no project on this yet.) "Can you personally say, that there is no possibility that a god exists out there, who is responsible for all of this." Please remember, I am anti Jesus at this point, anti religious at this point and would be for several more years, as no valid proof had ever been done, on the existence of God.
He answered me. NO. I then asked him then, as he kept telling me and everyone else this: "You mean Dog? You mean Maddog?", each and every time some one spoke of God in his presence, what was the reason for him saying he is an atheist? He told me. It wasn't pleasant. His mother who was a staunch religious person treated him horribly. I understood and left, and used the man without reservations when ever I needed to.
Eventually I looked looked, even after I found out By Proof, that God exists, if I could find anyone who fit the description of that word. After about 10 years, I found no one. Each person instead was some version of being hurt, or listening to one liar or another liar, and discarding those lies about God.
Please, I was not attempting to define the word.
LOVE,
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And your faith icon says Agnostic.
LOVE,
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Hi,Hi.
You asserted before that "By the real defintion of Atheism, nobody fits.". The real definition of atheism does not require that you assert that no gods exist. Just FYI.
You can be both.
Indeed. That does not change the fact that I am an atheist as well. They are not mutually exclusive.
My point is Evolution. Animals kill other animals for territory, rape their females. The strong crush the weak, which helps the species improve.
The weird thing about Atheists is they always use religious arguments ("don't hurt the weak", "I'm a good person", etc.) instead of logical arguments like evolution, euthanizing the weak/burdens on society, etc.
If you are Atheist then there is no "good" or "evil".
Or do you atheists not believe in Evolution?
What logical arguments can you have for not stealing a car if you know you can get away with it? Or robbing a bank? Or kidnapping the women you want who rejects you?
Nonsense. I agree on the INDIVIDUAL level there is a lot of risk for people. But we can do it in large groups not as individuals, and AT THAT LEVEL it has often been acceptable in non-Christian cultures. Like Japan taking tens of thousands of Korean "comfort women", Rome conquering other lands and taking their women as plunder, or the Vikings raping and looting.
Like why not blow up the Saudis, take all their oil for ourselves, maybe hand some out to the Russians/Chinese to appease them... or the Chinese who need more women (too many men) go into Vietnam which has an over-supply and conquer them and take millions of war brides... etc. etc.
So basically once everyone adheres to hedonism or atheism and gives up this strange religious "conscience" construct that only harms their own self-interest, then they should vote for a government that will take the most resources on their behalf.... conquer, pillage, loot, rape, etc.
No I didn't. And I didn't write an entire reply that's only purpose was to insult the other person (which you BOTH have done). I sometimes jokingly called them weak to show that they are essentially against Evolution because THEY are the weak ones that would be crushed by the strong. They aren't making the argument from the perspective of the strong who have everything to gain by a world of looting, raping, etc.
Reading the OP, it is
Reading the OP, it is like you are saying that we can't be moral because those are your religion's values. But the are good morals, and the do exist separate from religions. Religions do not have the lock on moral behavior. Empathy and logic about reducing harm to others can lead to good morals. No need to bring evolution into it.
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in god/s.
You know, I think this is the best, most succinct answer I have ever seen to this oft asked question. Do you mind if I use it sometime. There you go OP. There is nothing to be gained by evil even though you seem to think there is.
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