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You would have hated Thomas Jefferson and his Congress then. They used public funds to support missionaries, build churches, and print Bibles.I have no problem with religious symbolism, as long as I'm not paying with it through my taxes.
You would have hated Thomas Jefferson and his Congress then. They used public funds to support missionaries, build churches, and print Bibles.
Satan knows his army.
Atheists are bent on outlawing religious freedom in America and until then they'll terrorize the religious.
And do you think I'm kidding?
We want the system of Christian priviledge dismantled.
Hi JGG. I suggested that you could seek the same priveledge for your own views, too. Is that not enough?
The "priveledge" being expressed in this article is that Christians have the right to express their religious beliefs. I think that same right is available to you, too.
If you choose not to express that right, then what you are suggesting about taking away that right from Christians really does start to sound more like bitterness than a struggle for religious equality.
Actually Jefferson didn't support slavery. He was a bit of a hypocrite at times though. Many of the Founding fathers were vehemently opposed to it, even some of those who owned slaves. Jefferson was an opponent of the slave trade, disliked the effects of slavery on society, and believed slavery harmful to both slave and master.I wouldn't have hated him, I would have disagreed with him on that, as well as on slavery.
I'm sure there are lots of things to disagree with Jefferson on.
Add me to the list of atheists who just don't care. Just don't lump us all in together as if we were all the same, lest you want a bunch of people to drag out the Westboro folks and pretend we think you are all the same as them.
We are already doing this. Incest and bestiality are illegal in some states. Murder is illegal as well. There are many laws we have that are based on Biblical laws and many of are historic buildings are embellished with Christian Symbolism. For instance The Supreme Court building has Moses and the Ten Commandments on it.The point at which I care is when you try to enforce your concepts of Biblical law on me. Until then, these displays are just fluff and have at them.
Actually Jefferson didn't support slavery. He was a bit of a hypocrite at times though. Many of the Founding fathers were vehemently opposed to it, even some of those who owned slaves. Jefferson was an opponent of the slave trade, disliked the effects of slavery on society, and believed slavery harmful to both slave and master.
Many like Washington and Jefferson worked to abolish it but there was only so much they could do. In 1784, Jefferson proposed federal legislation banning slavery in the New Territories of the North and South, which failed to pass Congress by one vote. Washington privately expressed strong support for the gradual abolition of slavery. 1789 Congress passed and President Washington signed a law that reaffirmed the previous ban on slavery in the Northwest Territory.
If you lived in the 18th century and inherited slaves what would you have done? You may think "oh I would have just freed them" but it wouldn't have been that simple. Emancipation was illegal in some states and in others it was heavily regulated.
Good point. It really does bother me when people lump all christians together regardless of individual behaviour.
BTW did you guys know that the phrase Separation of Church and State is found nowhere in the Constitution? It was coined by Thomas Jefferson. A Baptist Church sent him a letter because they were worried that they would be discriminated against because their beliefs were unpopular. He wrote back describing a "Wall of Separation of Church and State"...which btw was a one dimensional wall designed to keep the State out of the Churches business and not the other way around.
This would be the same Thomas Jefferson who used public funds to support missionaries to the Indians and to build Churches.
Legal or not I would have freed them even if I had to violate the law to do so. However this would have required much thought on how to do this thing. I couldn't set them free in America. They would have to be smuggled into a country where slavery was illegal. This would be complicated, take an enormous amount of money, and take time to pull off.I'm sure I would have living in a period that does not have the insight, or experience that we have now. But I have the gift of hindsight, and living in a period where we expect all races to be treated equal I can see why that can't stand now. And saying that just because it was considered acceptable then, doesn't mean I agree with it now.
Agreed?
Legal or not I would have freed them even if I had to violate the law to do so. However this would have required much thought on how to do this thing. I couldn't set them free in America. They would have to be smuggled into a country where slavery was illegal. This would be complicated, take an enormous amount of money, and take time to pull off.
The Constitution calls Jesus Christ "Our Lord" and the Declaration of Independence says "to which the Laws of Nature and of (Nature's GOD) entitle them" "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by (their CREATOR) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" "The Supreme Judge of the World" "Divine Providence"Nor is the phrase "Christian Nation".
The Constitution calls Jesus Christ "Our Lord" and the Declaration of Independence says
"to which the Laws of Nature and of (Nature's GOD) entitle them"
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by (their CREATOR) with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
"The Supreme Judge of the World"
"Divine Providence"
So tell me more about me while you're reading my mind. What's my favourite colour for instance?
I'm not reading your mind. I'm reading your words of your internet personna--all of them and not just one post at a time--and comparing that to my own 30 years of experience as an atheist.
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