Atheism - a desperate and dying breed?

[Oafman]

If you believe that what you say is the truth you don't need evidence. A classic example is the claim that God doesn't exist.

Would you mind if I quote this in my signature? Thanks

 

[Robban]

As that is not done by christians today you have nothing to worry about.

The same to me.

Religion is nothing but an ego trip.

Idol worship.

Abraham got it right.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

If you believe that what you say is the truth you don't need evidence.

That sums up most religions

A classic example is the claim that God does exist. For someone to know this they have to have infinite knowledge so that makes them God as only God has infinite knowledge. A finite brain cannot have infinite knowledge. It is impossible.

Editing mine for effect..... It would appear your arguments can be turned straight back against you. Ho hum, back to the drawing board.....

 

[Episaw]

The same to me. Religion is nothing but an ego trip. Idol worship. Abraham got it right.

Religion is nothing but an ego trip. This claim is fraught with all sorts of conundrums.

First. What religion? As such the idea of 'religion' does not exist because religion encompasses everything from islamic terrorists to the gentle and peace loving Amish. Without qualification, religion means nothing.

The Urban Dictionary explains ego as "The part of you that defines itself as a personality, separates itself from the outside world, and considers itself (read: you) a separate entity from the rest of nature and the cosmos. Perhaps necessary for survival in some evolutionary bygone, in modern times it leads only to (albeit often disguised) misanthropic beliefs and delusion.

Synonyms for misanthropic are antisocial, unsociable, unfriendly, reclusive, uncongenial, unneighbourly, inhospitable, cynical, suspicious, distrustful, sceptical, jaundiced, narrow-minded.

Explain what you mean by religion and we can take this a step further.

 

[Cearbhall]

It is very simple to argue against his. All that is needed is a simple question which is "Do you want to be associated with a religion (35 churches and counting) that has presided over the biggest and most horrendous genocide of all time?"

If not, then atheism is a no no.

What religion are you talking about?

 

[MorkandMindy]

Probably Israel entering the Promised Land unless you believe in the flood or the killing of the first-born in Egypt.

 

[MorkandMindy]

No, sorry, it's either The Flood or the bowls of wrath etc. in the Book of Revelation. There haven't even been enough people on the planet, let alone in Egypt for the killing of the first-born or in Canaan during the entry to the promised land to come anywhere near those numbers.

 

[Cearbhall]

Probably Israel entering the Promised Land unless you believe in the flood or the killing of the first-born in Egypt.

I mean, my religion is Unitarian Universalism, so clearly it's not mine.

I actually don't know what the biggest genocide of all time was. Off to Wikipedia...

 

[Episaw]

What religion are you talking about?

atheism

 

[MorkandMindy]

atheism

pointless repetition

I mean, my religion is Unitarian Universalism, so clearly it's not mine.

I actually don't know what the biggest genocide of all time was. Off to Wikipedia...

It depends on whether you believe the Protestant Bible literally, which only a small minority of Christians do, in which case it is either Noah's Flood (you should have seen his water bill) or the later parts of Revelation.

If you're more into real life then I'd guess World War 2 was the biggest killer.


(WW2 was a complicated war involving many nations but the overall result apart from lots of horrendous deaths was Germany was destroyed as an industrial nation for a time and in exchange for helping Britain the US was given the level of jurisdiction Britain and France had previously had over the Middle East. Given the huge US military build-up in the 1930s it seems possible that was the intended plan from the start. There was a tricky bit near the end of destroying Germany as a military power without handing Europe over to Russia, but that was handled successfully.)

 

[Episaw]

pointless repetition. If you're more into real life then I'd guess World War 2 was the biggest killer.

Thankyou for repeating it.

Actually real life shows that the biggest killer is the genocide known as abortion. it has killed more babies than all the people killed in all the wars last century.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Thankyou for repeating it.

Actually real life shows that the biggest killer is the genocide known as abortion. it has killed more babies than all the people killed in all the wars last century.

You don't know what "genocide" means, do you?

 

[Robban]

Religion is nothing but an ego trip. This claim is fraught with all sorts of conundrums.

First. What religion? As such the idea of 'religion' does not exist because religion encompasses everything from islamic terrorists to the gentle and peace loving Amish. Without qualification, religion means nothing.

The Urban Dictionary explains ego as "The part of you that defines itself as a personality, separates itself from the outside world, and considers itself (read: you) a separate entity from the rest of nature and the cosmos. Perhaps necessary for survival in some evolutionary bygone, in modern times it leads only to (albeit often disguised) misanthropic beliefs and delusion.

Synonyms for misanthropic are antisocial, unsociable, unfriendly, reclusive, uncongenial, unneighbourly, inhospitable, cynical, suspicious, distrustful, sceptical, jaundiced, narrow-minded.

Explain what you mean by religion and we can take this a step further.

Going back to say, Abrahams childhood,
Abraham was born and grew up among idolworshipers, his father owned an idolshop, he sold idols.
At that time people worshiped the sun, moon, stars, sticks, stones, bugs, or
just about anything that appeared to have given them a good harvest, for example.

Abraham tried some of this stuff out and found it to be false,
he stood up and told them, they were wrong.

He told them, there is only One God, who brought all things into being, through ten utterances, He sustains His work, He wills it and it is, from nothing an emptiness did He bring into being all there is.

This was Abrahams mission the rest of his Life.

Labels, I am this, I am that, I am something else.

Well, good luck with that.

"No, I am not allowed to do that or this." Thats religion talking.

Religion does not and cannot give Life.

What can give Life and Life in abundance,

when the tiny fragment of Godliness in the human soul is awakened and quickened, the tiny fragment thats longing to be connected with it,s scource,

it gives Life in abundance.

Could well be that in the Christian World, it is called Holy Spirit,

to be baptized or annointed with Holy Spirit,

is something that no religion can achieve,

Only the Holy One, blessed be He, can give it.

An example, one of many, many.

In the NT, Acts,
Cornelius,
he gave Charity to Jews,(according the edition I have)

So what happened, what happened was, God told him, Cornelius, your Charity and good deeds have come up to Me and reminded Me, now it is time, so send for Simon etc,etc,

so what happened, what happened was Simon came and, whoom.

No religion can do those type of wonders, if any.

 

[Cearbhall]

atheism

But that's not a religion. It's simply a word that describes the denial of theistic religions. It's no different than stating definitively that the Loch Ness Monster does not exist. Surely you're aware of this.

For example, I'm an agnostic atheist. My religion is Unitarian Universalism.

 

[Episaw]

But that's not a religion. It's simply a word that describes the denial of theistic religions. It's no different than stating definitively that the Loch Ness Monster does not exist. Surely you're aware of this. For example, I'm an agnostic atheist. My religion is Unitarian Universalism.

You need to catch up on things. To date there are 35 atheist churches and counting. The Atheists in the USA have applied for religious tax exemption. Ergo a religion.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

You need to catch up on things. To date there are 35 atheist churches and counting. The Atheists in the USA have applied for religious tax exemption. Ergo a religion.

You really need to do your research better. American Atheists Inc have not asked for religious tax exemption - they already have a tax exemption. They have asked that churches stop getting preferential treatment for tax exemptions since that represents promotion of religion which is against the US constitution.

 

[Cearbhall]

You need to catch up on things. To date there are 35 atheist churches and counting. The Atheists in the USA have applied for religious tax exemption. Ergo a religion.

Yes, some atheists organize themselves into communities and use the word "church." That does not mean all atheists have anything in common that could be considered a "religion." It's a term that refers to a lack of something, not a shared trait. If some atheists prefer to develop religions and have a spiritual life, that's fine, but being atheist is not dependent upon having anything to do with these groups. Ergo, atheism itself is not a religion.

And no, they do not want a religious tax exemption.

 

[Robban]

You need to catch up on things. To date there are 35 atheist churches and counting. The Atheists in the USA have applied for religious tax exemption. Ergo a religion.

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[Oafman]

To date there are 35 atheist churches

Google quickly reveals the likely source of this claim. So assemblies are apparently happening in 35 towns. Hard to call them 'churches' (in either the organised-sect-of-a-religion sense or in the architectural sense).

Personally I find these things quite weird. I certainly would not want to attend one. But then, I've probably got very little in common with these people. Who knows, I may well disagree with many of them about almost everything· That's why atheism is not a religion.

 

[Episaw]

Google quickly reveals the likely source of this claim. So assemblies are apparently happening in 35 towns. Hard to call them 'churches' (in either the organised-sect-of-a-religion sense or in the architectural sense).

Personally I find these things quite weird. I certainly would not want to attend one. But then, I've probably got very little in common with these people. Who knows, I may well disagree with many of them about almost everything· That's why atheism is not a religion.

Thankyou all for your opinions. I have read them and put them in the round filing cabinet where I put all opinions.

I love your cartoon. A reflection of what is inside the head of an atheist?