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And the cry of 'you're not treating us fairly, you're treating us like we're not equal' (also known as the appeal to Holocaust) is anything OTHER than an appeal to emotion, since it's not logical.Well, there is an old standby that some Christians like to use when they don't get their way:
It's stupidity. It muddles the issue, and it lends an appeal to emotion to the discussion which otherwise wouldn't exist.
DeaconDean said:But still, if one says they are a Christian we are to accept that just because they say so.
"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." -Mt. 7:20 (KJV)
I agree that we should keep our christian base and i also agree that we keep things more open to everyone.... cant we kind some sort of middle ground here? Also please everyone respect eachother opinions this dosent need to get heated.
She was only making a suggestion.
Your type of response tends to create a self fulfilling prophesy concerning such matters.
Be polite, and any differences in belief being debated should make no difference here. That is what this forum appears to be possibly heading towards.
Grace and peace, GeneZ
u know what we should have a fruit IconI accept that you are, even if this entire thread is very lacking in fruity flavor.
Aside from that, I realize it's difficult to be confronted with people who call themselves Christian in one breath, and declare that they don't believe Christ was the Savior, in another. I get that.
In reality though, we don't need an icon to tell us who's who. Remember the fruit. Icons mean nothing.
Besides, there are going to be plenty of us, bearing those flashy icons, talking about how we did this for Jesus and that for Jesus, and the bible says that to some He will say "depart from me, I never knew thee."
He is G-d. I am not.
I don't need an icon to know who loves Him. I don't think He does either.
And the cry of 'you're not treating us fairly, you're treating us like we're not equal' (also known as the appeal to Holocaust) is anything OTHER than an appeal to emotion, since it's not logical.
I agree that we should keep our christian base and i also agree that we keep things more open to everyone.... cant we kind some sort of middle ground here? Also please everyone respect eachother opinions this dosent need to get heated.
.The Nicene Creed as an absolute standard of who is considered a Christian.
here is what you said where that was concernedNope, Angel. You're thinking of somebody else. I think I jumped on AgnosticTeen for making that comparison, in fact.
I may be wrong about agreement but the post seemed apathetic or agreeing to me in context of the discussion. That is what you stated when agnosticteen made his comment about ghettos and the holocaust. The others called him down for the comment but you did not which made it appear to be agreement imo.Lindon said:Christian-only or All-are-welcome. Conservative or Liberal. Church or Outreach. Elected Mods or Appointed.
It doesn't matter.
The problems will remain. The troubles aren't going anywhere. The only difference will be who's getting their throats cut.
I'd support whichever method gives me the best chance of defending myself against whichever vocal minority has currently made it their business to tell me what my business here is.
That method is personal freedom coupled with personal accountability -- which includes the freedom to determine who can hold me accountable.
Angel said:You called him down yes but not for that - instead it was for his comment about being able to hack votes(even though he also said he wouldnt do it but that he could) in the poll in response to saluecami saying he would pm 90 plus ex mods to come vote on this poll and then you said you could get 400 other members to swing the vote if you so desired.
Maybe you can show me where you jumped on him for the comparison to the holocaust because i cannot find it and i just read the whole exchange again. The fact is you did not.
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also some of the staff forums such as the conference rooms, training area and HQ should be in private. I think the way the reports are working is fine. But there are things that need to be discussed privately...
I have to disagree with private staff forum areas. Personally I feel one of the best things about the reforms was to get rid of the secrecy and the temptation for gossip and abuse that was partly caused by the secret staff forums.
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