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I disagree; moderators should be actively attempting to minister to the parties involved, not just enforce rules.All I am saying is that the administration of this site has never been completely Christian. It didn't hurt a thing. Second, if one truly wanted to be on staff, all one had to do was lie about their faith. Finally, mods are not here to minister but ADMINISTER. There is a difference.
Lisa
I still do not understand. Please bear with me, English is not my native language.No, but if you were asking to take part in a ministerial aspect of the Church, or asking to help administrate or enforce the rules (in a much broader sense than what you provided in your example) in a Church, I'd have to wonder what kind of Church we were visiting.
Part of being on staff should effectively be a ministerial position on staff, that should always be a prerequisite for any staff position.
I disagree; moderators should be actively attempting to minister to the parties involved, not just enforce rules.
Then, let us DO both! Being a Christian means following the TWO commands. We are to love one another and we are to spread the gospel. They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, the more we love one another, the better we are able to spread the gospel, not with words, but by OUR ACTIONS!
Lisa
Just as long as we're clear that they are, indeed, perfectly capable of doing the job, and you're objecting on ideological grounds. I've always thought it important to ensure clarity where naked bigotry is concerned.
Actually no it's not.When you think about it, isn't the primary Christian belief all about God showing tolerance to mankind?
Not really. If that were all there were to it it wouldn't be tolerance -- it'd be Santa Claus.If man is guilty of sin and the wages of sin are death and God has allowed that man escape that consequence, isn't that tolerance?
It's so sad to be persecuted by people who proclaim a given belief but then don't even seem to understand the foundation of the belief they claim.
No, but it was definitely implied when I was on staff last.Is that in their job description?
Lisa
No, but it was definitely implied when I was on staff last.
If it's not in their job description, it should be; it'd make the selection of moderators a lot better by placing a much higher standard on their involvement in the forums, I should think.
I could throw baseless claims at you, but I seriously doubt that would do much other than insult you and bait you into insulting me back, which would just be completely pointless, so why don't we both take a step back and not go down that road, okay?
I don't think moderating CF should be about enforcing the rules as much as ministering to the members here; to stand as representatives of CF, itself, as the Christian Ministry it purports to be.I still do not understand. Please bear with me, English is not my native language.
In what regard is "helping administrate or enforcing the rules" a "ministerial aspect of the Church"?
Part of Jesus' ministry was taking a fistful of cords and driving the animals and money changers out of the Temple. I am sure that the money changers thought Jesus was one big ole meanie. Does that mean that Jesus was not about love? SOmetime love means telling someone they are headed down a wrong path...sometimes bluntly if that is the only way they'll listen.I disagree; moderators should be actively attempting to minister to the parties involved, not just enforce rules.
Originally Posted by thereselittleflower
May I again propose that the REAL issue that needs to be decided FIRST is:
What is the VISION of CF?The current vision is undoable, unworkable and sets us up for failure. We cannot acheive the original vision as stated . . .it is not possible for this iste to unite all Christians in one body. It is a lofty dream, nothing more.
In order to determine between option 1 or 2 or 3 or any other option, we need a doable, workable, acheivable vision to reach for.
SO, I propose that the VISION of CF needs to change.
Instead of trying to do the impossible, unite all christians in one body, we should try to achieve something real.
I propose that we start with something more along these lines:
Proposed Vision:Once we have a realistic vision, then we can come up with a realistic way to move forward at this site.
Promote understanding, fellowship, and ministry among Christians to each other and to the world
I agree 100%, that's why I said "Not just...".Part of Jesus' ministry was taking a fistful of cords and driving the animals and money changers out of the Temple. I am sure that the money changers thought Jesus was one big ole meanie. Does that mean that Jesus was not about love? SOmetime love means telling someone they are headed down a wrong path...sometimes bluntly if that is the only way they'll listen.
I still do not understand. Please bear with me, English is not my native language.
In what regard is "helping administrate or enforcing the rules" a "ministerial aspect of the Church"?
Being a Christian moderator in the Christian section basically means of shepherding and looks back to the pattern of Jesus as Romans 12:8 explains "exhortation" follows immediately after teaching. The learned disciples are to encourage others to follow them as they follow Christ through their spiritual "wisdom" and "knowledge."
Christ says it so well indeedActually no it's not.
Not really. If that were all there were to it it wouldn't be tolerance -- it'd be Santa Claus.
"Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me?"
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