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To answer your question, he was a late 19th century American author and essayist; I forgot what he wrote, but he's considered to be one of the great authors of the period.Got it thanks for understanding...
Gotcha. Well, I and many others would contend that CF was not "working" prior to the 777 reforms. Now...is CF "working" now? That remains to be seen.Working as used in that sentence is operating and functioning within parameters which result in a positive flow of ideas and safety with a capability to improve and continue within those same safe parameters.
That is what working meant for me in that sentence...
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Relatively, yes.And I'm supposed to believe that you weren't making an associating between choosing to disobey God and choosing option 1, or choosing to obey God and choosing option 2?
Frankly, I'm concerned with your attitude to let any athiest, pagan, agnostic, etc...to ruin the body of Christ here at CF by letting them promote their beliefs upon Christians...the bible says to guard our hearts, to put on the full armour of Christ...why would it say that if we weren't supposed to protect ourselves from something? The evil one is running to and fro, and he's running right into CF at this time.KS said:Again, I'm not concerned with the poll; I'm concerned with the attitude you've just expressed here - that the only way we can be a Christian site is if we restrict non-Christians from some or all of it.
You are entitled to your beliefs.KS said:I find that to be a distinctly un-Christian notion;
I'd be the first one to evangelize to one of them if they would let me.KS said:I believe that the only way we can call ourselves a Christian forum in good conscience is to go out of our way to welcome non-Christians, interact with them, and lead by example.
Now, you are going to tell me Who my God is. pffftKS said:I somehow doubt it,
Again, guard your hearts...armour of Christ...see a correlation there?KS said:if the will of the God you worship is somehow so contingent upon Christians separating themselves from non-Christians.
Its more complicated that you can see obviously.KS said:I said that your depiction of God is one of weakness, and I think that reflects a relative weakness in faith. Why do you find non-Christians to be so threatening that you feel CF must have forums exclusively for Christians?
That's good to hear.KS said:I'd rather not, thank you. I'd much rather be a part of building Christ's Kingdom on Earth.
Intelligent post.The process of leading a person to Christ mostly happens between two people interacting with questions being asked and answered. Or they hear the message being preached by one individual. It wouldnt be that way here as far as evangelism..it would become because of so many differing opinions and interpretations, different personalities, and people wanting to get their two cents in, a gang up style of presenting the Gospel's truths, totally confusing the seeking individual. I never looked at CF as church, pastoring and such on these boards. If any of this does occur, it more than likely if ever, happened thru PM's, because the person needs and wants just one person to talk to. I'm not saying it can't happen, but the internet is a whole different setting.
The Word clearly indicates you receive the gospel by hearing it. Did you not hear the gospel? Have you read the Word? Or did you receive the gospel of Christ because someone was nice to you and let you in their house and gave you dinner and let you leave without mentioning Christ to you?I disagree. I believe that the bulk of the process of leading somebody to Christ occurs through leading by example. Only then will the non-Christians find you credible enough to start asking you questions about the source of your self-assuredness and personal moral uprightness.
Leading by example? I don't know you and you don't know me, again because of a internet setting. I don't want anybody looking at me when I'm trying to tell them about the One we need to see. People that look at people can always be disappointed in what they see. But are never disappointed when they see Jesus.I disagree. I believe that the bulk of the process of leading somebody to Christ occurs through leading by example. Only then will the non-Christians find you credible enough to start asking you questions about the source of your self-assuredness and personal moral uprightness.
Another intelligent post!Why can't Christian Forums get back to it's original mission of uniting every Christian?
Why must we unite unbelievers, haters, etc. AND Christians?
What about not yoking ourselves with non-believers?
God forbid we should stop talking to Atheists, deists, etc. But allowing them to rule over us? This is [not Sparta] madness!
II Corinthians 6:14
"Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness?"
Let's go back to the old CF, please. A more positive, uplifting, encouraging place FOR CHRISTIANS.
To Atheists, deists, etc.:
I'm sorry you feel rejected in a place that is comprised of CHRISTIANS. What's so hard to understand? If I went into an Atheist forum, I'm pretty sure I'd be shunned for being a Christian...
I honestly don't get it...either you want this place to be full of Christians (remember, Christians Forums?) or full of the World.
Another intelligent post!Trish said:Leading by example? I don't know you and you don't know me, again because of a internet setting. I don't want anybody looking at me when I'm trying to tell them about the One we need to see. People that look at people can always be disappointed in what they see. But are never disappointed when they see Jesus.
If you go over to the thread on option three you will see someplace in the center of it much conversation on the separate yet equal system. Those posts were very interesting and I even went into great detail about that system there also. The link to that thread is here...Gotcha. Well, I and many others would contend that CF was not "working" prior to the 777 reforms. Now...is CF "working" now? That remains to be seen.
I'm not sure where to post this due to their being multiple threads/polls on this...so here goes.
I have seen a little discussion on splitting CF into two sites. One open and one not basically. This would be a mistake in my view. It is segregation. There would be even more admin/mod overhead. There would be a whole new crop of issues such as "who is fit to post on what site?"
Those are my initial impressions.
I'm sorry you feel rejected in a place that is comprised of CHRISTIANS. What's so hard to understand? If I went into an Atheist forum, I'm pretty sure I'd be shunned for being a Christian...
The old CF was uniting some Christians, not all Christians. Only after the changes it became possible for all Christians to post together with no one being unfairly excluded.Let's go back to the old CF, please. A more positive, uplifting, encouraging place FOR CHRISTIANS.
This is true sparklecat, but that's not what CF was doing before. We have a place for apologetics and debate, always have.That would not mean it was right of them to do so to you.
Thanks. I'll take another look at that first one.If you go over to the thread on option three you will see someplace in the center of it much conversation on the separate yet equal system. Those posts were very interesting and I even went into great detail about that system there also. The link to that thread is here...
http://www.christianforums.com/t5794...look-like.html
This thread is also extremely important and interesting also with very constructive suggestions...
[URL="http://www.christianforums.com/t5800...o-run-cf-.html"]http://www.christianforums.com/t5800...o-run-cf-.html[/URL]
This is true sparklecat, but that's not what CF was doing before. We have a place for apologetics and debate, always have.
For some reason the second link in your quote is truncated so I am posting it here again if you are interested. I think this thread is very important too.Thanks. I'll take another look at that first one.
I also wanted to clarify my last post a bit. There have been areas of CF that have been relatively unaffected by the 777 changes. They were working before and after the changes. I just wanted to say it is good to see that the disfunction of CF doesn't apply to all areas!
If this is indeed true, then Erwin should have changed the apologetics and debate forum somehow. If this is how you all were treated, then it IS wrong, and that area should have been improved. I do not believe the entire website should be uprooted and thrown into chaos because of a few who hurt your feelings. I'm sorry that they hurt your feelings, really I am.Yes, we did. A place with maybe a dozen regular Christian posters, where we'd also get the occasional member who'd stop by to write a thread or six telling us we were wrong (and frequently, that we were fools and swine as well), and then disappear.
Of course, there were also the few Christian 'events' we were invited to in the form of fellowship threads in the CO areas and threads when people recalled that they could put in [OPEN] tags and it might be nice to do so.
We were tolerated. Not welcomed.
If this is indeed true, then Erwin should have changed the apologetics and debate forum somehow. If this is how you all were treated, then it IS wrong, and that area should have been improved. I do not believe the entire website should be uprooted and thrown into chaos because of a few who hurt your feelings. I'm sorry that they hurt your feelings, really I am.
Probably not, but regardless, me going to an Atheist forum would require having certain motivations.That would not mean it was right of them to do so to you.
Why can't Christian Forums get back to it's original mission of uniting every Christian
Why must we unite unbelievers, haters, etc. AND Christians?
What about not yoking ourselves with non-believers?
God forbid we should stop talking to Atheists, deists, etc. But allowing them to rule over us? This is [not Sparta] madness!
II Corinthians 6:14
"Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness?"
Let's go back to the old CF, please. A more positive, uplifting, encouraging place FOR CHRISTIANS.
I'm sorry you feel rejected in a place that is comprised of CHRISTIANS. What's so hard to understand? If I went into an Atheist forum, I'm pretty sure I'd be shunned for being a Christian...
I honestly don't get it...either you want this place to be full of Christians (remember, Christians Forums?) or full of the World.
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