Assume you are wrong.

[Uphill Battle]

You mean put our faith in the body,
rather than in the Head?
Or do you mean in a physical
church?

He means HIS church, which he believes is THE church.

 

[Asinner]

We are never told to put our faith in the church.. Our faith is not even of us but a gift from God.. We put our trust in Jesus alone.. He is the author and the finisher of our Faith.. Faith cometh from hearing and hearing from the word of God.

The Church is Christ!!! It is His Body, of which He is the Head. It is where He is manifested. It is where we partake of Him. Absorbing ourselves in His word is one way we partake, but there are other ways too. Christ did not limit Himself to a book, for He is Infinte . . . He is everywhere present and filling all things. The Truth you read about in Holy Scriptures must be made known. It is made known in His Church, in His saints, in His Worship, in His Heavenly Hosts, in His Sacraments, in His Icons, His priesthood, His hymns of the Church . . . Wherever Christ is, there is Perfection and Holiness.

Love,
Christina

 

[IamAdopted]

The Church is Christ!!! It is His Body, of which He is the Head. It is where He is manifested. It is where we partake of Him. Absorbing ourselves in His word is one way we partake, but there are other ways too. Christ did not limit Himself to a book, for He is Infinte . . . He is everywhere present and filling all things. The Truth you read about in Holy Scriptures must be made known. It is made known in His Church, in His saints, in His Worship, in His Heavenly Hosts, in His Sacraments, in His Icons, His priesthood, His hymns of the Church . . . Wherever Christ is, there is Perfection and Holiness.

Love,
Christina

The church is not Christ.. The church is Christ's ambassadors.. We are the bride of Christ.. We have not yet been to the marraige supper of the Lamb. God contains all we need in His word. If we want to find God we go to His written word. If we want to see what God thinks of something We go to His written word. If we want to find a light to our path we go to His written word. If we don't want to sin against Him we hide His word in our hearts.

 

[Asinner]

The church is not Christ.. The church is Christ's ambassadors.. We are the bride of Christ.. We have not yet been to the marraige supper of the Lamb. God contains all we need in His word. If we want to find God we go to His written word. If we want to see what God thinks of something We go to His written word. If we want to find a light to our path we go to His written word. If we don't want to sin against Him we hide His word in our hearts.

Our discussions have ended here. God Bless!

 

[PassthePeace1]

We have not yet been to the marraige supper of the Lamb. .

I went yesterday.

 

[Leah]

The church is not Christ.. The church is Christ's ambassadors.. We are the bride of Christ.. We have not yet been to the marraige supper of the Lamb. God contains all we need in His word. If we want to find God we go to His written word. If we want to see what God thinks of something We go to His written word. If we want to find a light to our path we go to His written word. If we don't want to sin against Him we hide His word in our hearts.

Thank you.

I believe that if Christ never came, then we'd still be living in the Old Testament days and the Church would not even exist. And alot of us would be in serious trouble.

 

[IamAdopted]

I went yesterday.

Wow you went to heaven and came back? Jesus has come? I don't think so.. You went to communion not the The wedding feast. Read Revelations.. Jesus will not partake of the communion again until the wedding feast when He sits with His bride and we drink together..

 

[sunlover1]

Wow you went to heaven and came back? Jesus has come? I don't think so.. You went to communion not the The wedding feast. Read Revelations.. Jesus will not partake of the communion again until the wedding feast when He sits with His bride and we drink together..

You're losing me girl.

WAY over my head.

It's alright, don't bother trying
to explain it lol.
I think it's going to be an entire
lesson rather than a post.

love,
sunlover

 

[Leah]

I can't spell.

And I did not read your post wrong. You said it was a problem that people put faith in their Church, it's Doctrines and it's teachings. So according to you, it's a problem to put faith in the Body of Christ, which He Himself established here on earth as the visible Church. This is what you said, you can't take it back now. You could admit you are wrong, but not take it back like you never said it.

That's because I didn't say what you think I'm saying. I said that people put their faith in THEIR church and in THEIR activites and in THEIR doctrines and in THEIR teachings. Meaning, it's all about THEM, not God. God is secondary in churches such as these and you know as well as I do that they are all over this country, Repentant. I thought I made that point quite clear in my posts.

I don't know how much simpler I need to break it down for you to understand that I was not being derogetory at all.

Matter of fact, somebody repped me about this, so it is clear that this person fully understood what I said.

Perhaps you could admit YOU were wrong and not act like I'm the jerk who doesn't know what she's talking about.

 

[PassthePeace1]

Wow you went to heaven and came back?

Well, more like the other way around.

Jesus has come? I don't think so..

Yeah, He was there...

You went to communion not the The wedding feast. Read Revelations.. Jesus will not partake of the communion again until the wedding feast when He sits with His bride and we drink together..

Well, it looks like by my off handed comment...I accidently opened a can of worms. So if I make any more comments to this subject, it would really open up a can of worms, which was not my intent.

To avoid this subject from derailing this thread, way off topic....it would best to start another thread in the appropriate forum, if it is something that you would really like to discuss. If not, well...we can leave it at this...Peace be with you...Pam

 

[repentant]

watch yo do not back yourself into a corner as you deny the papacy of today because you as a Orthodox as do many protestants scholars know that peter was the foundational rock Christ's Church was built on.

The papacy and Peter as the foundational Christ built his Church on should be to you and Prots, two seperate matters.

I have the truth of the truth, I am not worried about being backed into a corner...Jesus built His Church on the FAITH Peter exclaimed, not Peter. Why are you a Christian today? Because of Peter, or because of your faith? There's your answer..

 

[repentant]

We are never told to put our faith in the church.. Our faith is not even of us but a gift from God.. We put our trust in Jesus alone.. He is the author and the finisher of our Faith.. Faith cometh from hearing and hearing from the word of God.

Do you miss the point that the Church is the Body of Christ with Christ as the Head? What you don't realize is the you do put faith in the Church. You put faith in that what they tell you is Scripture is true. Without Scripture, what faith would you have?

 

[IamAdopted]

Do you miss the point that the Church is the Body of Christ with Christ as the Head? What you don't realize is the you do put faith in the Church. You put faith in that what they tell you is Scripture is true. Without Scripture, what faith would you have?

 

[Benedicta00]

Do you miss the point that the Church is the Body of Christ with Christ as the Head? What you don't realize is the you do put faith in the Church. You put faith in that what they tell you is Scripture is true. Without Scripture, what faith would you have?

Exactly.

 

[Benedicta00]

I have the truth of the truth, I am not worried about being backed into a corner...Jesus built His Church on the FAITH Peter exclaimed, not Peter. Why are you a Christian today? Because of Peter, or because of your faith? There's your answer..

Repentant, Jesus built his Church on Peter and the rest of the 12 but Peter was given special authority and that's apparent when reading scripture, especially Acts.

 

[Benedicta00]

The church is not Christ.. The church is Christ's ambassadors.. We are the bride of Christ.. We have not yet been to the marraige supper of the Lamb. God contains all we need in His word. If we want to find God we go to His written word. If we want to see what God thinks of something We go to His written word. If we want to find a light to our path we go to His written word. If we don't want to sin against Him we hide His word in our hearts.

Ephesians 5:23

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.

Colossians 1:24

Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

You're revealing more and more each day how ascriptural you really are.

 

[Benedicta00]

You're losing me girl.

WAY over my head.

It's alright, don't bother trying
to explain it lol.
I think it's going to be an entire
lesson rather than a post.

love,
sunlover

What she is trying to say is the SDA do not believe when we die we go to heaven. I'm not sure if they believe the damned go to hell or not after death.

They believe the soul sleeps and at the resurrection they will rise and then be alive.

Now maybe you can see why communion of the saints and our honer of Mary is so unacceptable to her. She doesn't believe souls go to heaven, she believes they sleep. She is following the teachings of Ellen White. A supposed prophet of the 1800's.

Makes you wonder how she can accuse us with a straight face of following the teachings men and not God.

 

[Benedicta00]

Wow you went to heaven and came back? Jesus has come? I don't think so.. You went to communion not the The wedding feast. Read Revelations.. Jesus will not partake of the communion again until the wedding feast when He sits with His bride and we drink together..

We can go there everyday, Mass is a bit on heaven on earth, a taste of what is to come, what awaits those who love God and who serve him well.

 

[Benedicta00]

I don't put my trust in the church either.. My trust and faith is in Christ. This puts me in the Body of Christ.. I trust God.. Man can and will dissapoint me. God never does..

Now this really isn't true is it? What about the visions of Ellen White, you trust those don't you?

 

[IamAdopted]

Ephesians 5:23


Colossians 1:24


You're revealing more and more each day how ascriptural you really are.

Tee hee.. okay.. Yes Jesus is the head of His Church His body. I put my faith in the head. I look to Jesus the author and the finisher of my faith. Not the Church. I am part of the body. For the Lord is my helper and my strength. Those who look upon the Lord shall renew their strength they shall rise up with birds of and eagle. They shall run and not be weary they shall walk and not faint.. He is my strong tower.. I can run into Him and not be afraid. So Jesus is my rock. He is my foundation and in His word I trust..