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Where in the Bible, even one line, is there a hint of approval?
Well I have a living will and if I get cancer or something I can think of several painless way to go that I would use.
OK then. There you go. Suicide is moral! Proof positive.King Saul committed suicide. Nowhere in the bible do I see him being chastised for it in any way whatsoever.
OK then. There you go. Suicide is moral! Proof positive.
King Saul was considered broadly in moral turpitude, so the fact that one particular thing was not specified is not any indication that particular act was moral.King Saul committed suicide. Nowhere in the bible do I see him being chastised for it in any way whatsoever.
*murderI can see how some may see it as muder but if the person is so sick that they can't do simple things but understand that what is happening I feel it's okay. And if they have it in their living will, they HAVE to do it. Right?
King Saul was considered broadly in moral turpitude, so the fact that one particular thing was not specified is any indication that particular act was moral.
Oh certainly that is a good suggestion; clear terminology where of course it's essential to be able to make the distinction between deciding about your own life or deciding about someone else's life ... ! Please read 'assisted suicide' in all places where I used the term 'euthanasia'.I object to the conflation of assisted suicide with "euthanasia." That can have pernicious consequences. "Euthanasia" is when someone else decides your life is not worth living and kills you, with or without your consent...it is not the same thing as "assisted suicide." We euthanize animals.
But if the laws are written to conflate the two, we wind up with laws permitting something people didn't intend.
Of course this actually is in the Bible. Biblically, the blood is seen as the seat of life, and it belongs to God and God alone. This is why, for example, Hebrews are not permitted to consume blood (e.g. Leviticus 17), and why the blood was so important in the sacrificial offerings. It is also why it is Abel's blood that "cries out to God from the ground." So in the Biblical sense it is precisely the spilling of human blood that is prohibited, and all exceptions are explicit (e.g. Genesis 9:6). It doesn't matter whether the blood one is spilling is their own or someone else's. Either way it belongs to God, and it is not permitted.I guess if there is no line in the Bible against it you will just have to try it and see what happens. Do a little experiment. But if you are wrong, and one of the ten commandments, the one against murder, applies to murdering yourself after all, then it's a bit late to reverse the experiment.
(As for the claim in post #21 that Saul's suicide reflects no judgment by the Biblical author, this is just an ignorant reading of the text and a failure to understand Hebrew literature.)
I guess if there is no line in the Bible against it you will just have to try it and see what happens.
You pay your money and you take your chances.Me and J.C. ... we be cool.
You pay your money and you take your chances.
That's not the whole story and cannot be applied literally in all cases IMHO - example:Of course this actually is in the Bible. Biblically, the blood is seen as the seat of life, and it belongs to God and God alone. This is why, for example, Hebrews are not permitted to consume blood (e.g. Leviticus 17), and why the blood was so important in the sacrificial offerings. It is also why it is Abel's blood that "cries out to God from the ground." So in the Biblical sense it is precisely the spilling of human blood that is prohibited, and all exceptions are explicit (e.g. Genesis 9:6). It doesn't matter whether the blood one is spilling is their own or someone else's. Either way it belongs to God, and it is not permitted.
(As for the claim in post #21 that Saul's suicide reflects no judgment by the Biblical author, this is just an ignorant reading of the text and a failure to understand Hebrew literature.)
It's not your decision if it's illegal.. i think it should be legal in the U S. Some one here in cf said you can't lose your salvation if you do it. I agree with that. I know you didn't ask that part, i just threw that in for others.I give myself the right to decide. No one can take it from me.
It is my life after all.
This is a very iffy topic. If your terminal meaning you are gonna die and your in pain and want it to in I fully understand and accept that. I also see the danger in it. I think it would have to be a case by case deal and It would need signed of by at least doctors to avoid abuse of the service. Now for the religious issue, I have never read a line in the bible that says suicide means you go to hell...if its there show me. If your terminal your already dead...its just a matter of how much your gonna suffer before you die. I do not believe god would want anyone who is dying to suffer unnecessarily.
Where does free will come into this subject? Sounds like free will is limited.As I would expect from an atheist.
"Free" is an absolute adjective. If it's limited, it's not "free."Where does free will come into this subject? Sounds like free will is limited.
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