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Ask the New Agey, Tree-Huggin Hippie!

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GQ Chris

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I used to be New Agey, but never hippie, and I am from the hippie bay area. lol

I was New Agey and also dabbled in Buddhism and just from deductive reasoning decided that New Age and Buddhism wasn't truthful.

Actually the straw that broke the camel's back of my New Ageyness was reading The Celestine Prophecy, I finished reading that awful book and thought to myself, what a bunch of hooey, and from that point onward started my Christian journey.
 
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I think it's different. :D

That's what I thought as well, it seems like hippies have embraced capitalism by shopping at places like Whole Paycheck, err I mean Whole Foods, buying Apple ipods and other Apple products, and being hip to the times by supporting Barrack Obama. I don't see a whole lot of them in tye dye shirts anymore, aside from the aging 60's hippies from the Vietnam era.
 
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I do like that grocery store; I don't like paying high prices just to eat.


I don't either but I don't know where else to get raw cashews, good quality butter and good canned tuna. I only go there about every 4-6 weeks. If I want ethically raised, free range meat I have to pay 3x the grocery store amount to get it from a local farm. That drives me crazy! I hate that it's expensive to eat good food if you don't have the room to do it all yourself.
 
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Kat, are u into all-natural foods and possessions? Do you like, only eat organic foods and such? And do u own anything made out of hemp?

I try to live as naturally as possible. Of course, that isn't always feasible due to our dependence upon technology. I use towels and rags instead of paper towels most of the time to clean, I grow my own vegetables, buy organic and fair trade whenever I can, I use eco-friendly cleaning products made from common things like vinegar and baking soda. And I own quite a few balls of hemp cord, because I macrame my own jewelry.

What do you make of the oil crisis? Isn't it time that we *really* put more money into finding, researching, and developing alternative energy sources? And to let the corporations pay for the damage they caused, rather than letting the tax payers do that for them?

The BP oil tragedy is terrible. My stepson lives in Pensacola, Florida and they have blobs of oil all over their beaches. Pensacola's economy has been struggling for a few years now, and Summer tourism is their largest economic stimulus. Now that their beaches are closed, their economy is in trouble. Plus, the odor of the oil in the air has exacerbated his asthma. Personally, I find our dependence upon oil and lack of ambition to develop energy alternatives alarming. Tax payers should not have to foot the bill when a major corporation screws up, in my opinion.

So the thread as a whole came to the conclusion "new age" was difficult to define. How about "Hippie"? Why and how do you define yourself as a "hippie"?

Yeah, now that I think of it, I was probably using the term "New Age" more tongue-in-cheek than anything else. The whole "Age of Aquarius" deal. I reckon I'm more of an eclectic spiritualist. I consider myself a hippie born in the wrong generation. I was raised by hippie parents who had to try and publically mask their hippie tendencies in order to assimilate to the 1980s "gimme gimme gimme" culture and to appease my grandmother, who has lived with us from the time I was four years old.

To me, being a hippie goes beyond how you dress or what genre of music you listen to. Granted, I love bell bottom blue jeans, tie-dyed gauze shirts, Batik skirts, Cat Stevens, Bob Dylan, Buffalo Springfield. Although I must confess something rather "unhippie", and that is I don't much care for The Grateful Dead.

I'm largely a pacifist, anti-war, anti-racism/sexism/homophobia/classism...basically any of the "isms". Pro-Green Movement minus the consumerism aimed toward the movement (i.e., cleaning products specifically marketed as "green" or "eco-friendly" while costing twice as much as their carcinogenic counterparts). Pro-Fair Trade. I like the concept of intentional community (aka, communes or communal living) modeled after Marxist ideology, although I realize Communism could never be successfully implemented on a federal (or even state) level due to the potential for abuse. I believe in living as simply as possible, trying to avoid the trappings of consumerism, and repurposing goods. I also believe there is nothing wrong with being proud of your country of origin or a country you have migrated to, but on the same token we're all citizens of the same earth.
 
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That's pretty much what "hippie" seems to be for me. I consider myself a bit of a hippie as well.... I'm all about peace, social justice, as eco-friendly as I can be(still trying to figure out how to go about recycling when my county has an ATROCIOUS recycling program, really sad), religious freedom, spiritually unorthodox....... I apparently have the look too, because the kids I work with keep asking if I smoke weed. I'm like... just because I have curly hair, I'm skinny, wear the peace signs and obscure religious jewelry, doesn't mean I do drugs, legal or otherwise. >.<
 
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I try to live as naturally as possible. Of course, that isn't always feasible due to our dependence upon technology. I use towels and rags instead of paper towels most of the time to clean, I grow my own vegetables, buy organic and fair trade whenever I can, I use eco-friendly cleaning products made from common things like vinegar and baking soda. And I own quite a few balls of hemp cord, because I macrame my own jewelry.

I'm largely a pacifist, anti-war, anti-racism/sexism/homophobia/classism...basically any of the "isms". Pro-Green Movement minus the consumerism aimed toward the movement (i.e., cleaning products specifically marketed as "green" or "eco-friendly" while costing twice as much as their carcinogenic counterparts). Pro-Fair Trade. I like the concept of intentional community (aka, communes or communal living) modeled after Marxist ideology, although I realize Communism could never be successfully implemented on a federal (or even state) level due to the potential for abuse. I believe in living as simply as possible, trying to avoid the trappings of consumerism, and repurposing goods. I also believe there is nothing wrong with being proud of your country of origin or a country you have migrated to, but on the same token we're all citizens of the same earth.

I pretty much agree with all the above except I don't make my own jewelry and I'm not a pacifist (though I desperately want peace for all people). I do not like the Gradateful Dead either. :p

I can't figure out why I should pay for cleaning products when I can just use vinegar or baking soda. It's not any easier and it's more expensive! I confess...I use bleach on the inside of the toilet.
 
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I'm like... just because I have curly hair, I'm skinny, wear the peace signs and obscure religious jewelry, doesn't mean I do drugs, legal or otherwise. >.<

I am very outspoken in my support of the legalization of marijuana in the US but I don't use it.
 
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I could push anybody's buttons. It's a special talent. :D

So Kat, you got hemp, the hippie icon can stay. No Dead? You never heard 'em live. They were a jam band, which means their records suck. Ever hear Slightly Stoopid? What do you think of them?

You beat me to the Age of Aquarius joke, thank you. My tongue still hurts from biting it so hard. Speaking of which, good call on not feeding that troll. (I really wanted to smack him upside the head, so to speak)

It sounds weird to me to see WW talk about "the oil crises." To me, that still means President Carter. Even though I was just a kid, when he announced the oil shortage as a long-term, permanent condition, it was perfectly obvious to me we would outlaw all motor sports and jack up the price of gas, collecting revenue to research alternative energy. Do you think that's a good idea, or do you have a better one?

And you never did say how a tree-hugger gets tree sap out of your clothes ..
 
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Hmm. Tree-huggin? Just another term for sexual harassment of our tree sisters and brothers if you ask me...

Ok onto a real question. :)

-What would you say your diet is like? Typical American meat-heavy diet, or vegetarian, vegan, etc?

Hey, Mark :) The energy that all living entities produce can be felt by anyone, but most people don't readily identify it as such. A book I once read described it best - it's the feeling you get when you're scared/anxious/excited and you get what most people refer to as "butterflies in your stomach". That's energy welling up inside your body. If I, say, touch a tomato plant in my garden I may be able to feel slight (or strong, depending on a number of factors) vibrations coming from the plant against my palm. This isn't a supernatural experience, as the energy is already there within the living subject; however, the vibrations are usually so subtle that you really have to be "looking" for them in order to feel them. Sometimes it is a pulsing sensation or a tickle or, if it's a weak energy, like cobwebs against my hand.
Would you say that this energy is the same type of physical energy as the measurable kind? As in, kinetic energy, potential energy, chemical energy, etc? Or is it a supernatural placeholder word?

I see new age people mentioning vibrations a lot, and how to raise them. Would you say these vibrations are measurable? What is it that is doing the vibration?

My mother was a New Ager when I was a teen. Considering what I learned through her and her New Age friends, I'd suggest that it is simply the idea that:

1) we have "psychic" potentials
2) we can actualize those potentials

From what I can tell, this fascination with psychic powers is common to virtually all New Agers. Of course, one can mention Astrology, crystals, etc, but I think that interest in these things comes down to the belief of mental influences of a psychic sort, whether by planets or by people.

eudaimonia,

Mark
Earlier in this thread you seemed to have differentiated New Age and New Thought. What you list here as New Age seems to match my definition of New Thought except without the astrology and crystals and such. How do you view the difference between the two?

-Lyn
 
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Would you say that this energy is the same type of physical energy as the measurable kind? As in, kinetic energy, potential energy, chemical energy, etc? Or is it a supernatural placeholder word?
The mystics of various spiritual paths often talk about an awareness of energy behind the physical. They call it different names, depending upon the spiritual path the mystic follows. They say it's not measurable directly, though the experience of it they say does seem to cause changes in the seeker.

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Hmm. Tree-huggin? Just another term for sexual harassment of our tree sisters and brothers if you ask me...

Nah, my sister is the tree harasser. I actually have a photo of her, taken on New Year's Eve, where she's air humping a tree in our backyard. :D

-What would you say your diet is like? Typical American meat-heavy diet, or vegetarian, vegan, etc?

I am a vegetarian. I did eat a vegan diet for almost a year, but cooking for two meat eaters made it very difficult to plan meals and shop of groceries.

Would you say that this energy is the same type of physical energy as the measurable kind? As in, kinetic energy, potential energy, chemical energy, etc? Or is it a supernatural placeholder word?

I don't see it as supernatural, because science can explain it. Our bodies run on energy and that energy can be stored up, manipulated, released.

I see new age people mentioning vibrations a lot, and how to raise them. Would you say these vibrations are measurable? What is it that is doing the vibration?

I feel that the core of my energy is in my solar plexus area. From there I can redirect it. My limited understanding of the scientific aspect of it is that it can be measured, but I'm not well-versed enough in what methods scientists have used to measure this energy.

Earlier in this thread you seemed to have differentiated New Age and New Thought. What you list here as New Age seems to match my definition of New Thought except without the astrology and crystals and such. How do you view the difference between the two?

Excellent question. I view New Thought as taking ancient concepts of God and creation and reinventing them to fit our modern life. New Thought tends to revolve around recreating the healing ministry of Jesus Christ through the means of holistic and faith healing. To me, New Thought seems to be more like an ecumenical view of Christianity than anything else.
 
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