You are assuming the existence of the religious conceit of the 'soul'.
What do you see the 'soul' as ?
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Who says that when a person dies, or is damaged in the body, that the soul suffers from it's affects?
But also I don't see the soul as a bunch of fireing neutrons in the brain. So we do disagree on that part.
A point that is central to this conversation and seems to be something you are perhaps predicating your argument on is: that which is popular is valid.
I do not agree with the 'majority are right' view, or the 'everyone is doing it so it must be good/right' view.
That which is popular is popular, nothing else.
Did the Christian god (the one I persume you follow) ingrain on the people of central African the natural desire to sarfice children to the ocean to stop the tides ?
Why did he not just make himself visible, why the child sacrifice ?
Or did he just ingrain his wishes a little poorly ?
But how could he ? He is omnipotent, he is omniscient, he is omnipresent, he must have engrained perfectly, he must have engrained clearly and with exacting purpose, he must have wanted the children wrapped in cane leaves an drowned.
I believe as the Bible stated on how Adam became a living soul. He was a lump of silent lifeless formed dirt, until God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Life comes from the attributes of God. Can it be proved in some way, that this component of man exists? For me, just the fact that there is life, is enough for me. And does an attribute of God such as life, cease to exist due to the death of the flesh? Does a part of God die at death? Believing to the saving of the soul, which would be an attribute of God that never dies, would be what salvation is all about for the Christian.You are assuming the existence of the religious conceit of the 'soul'.
What do you see the 'soul' as ?
But is the soul affected? Or can be? Sure the physical effect is immediate, but no one can say with all assurance that the unseen part has been affected. Who says that when a person dies, or is damaged in the body, that the soul suffers from it's affects?
But also I don't see the soul as a bunch of fireing neutrons in the brain. So we do disagree on that part.
I believe as the Bible stated on how Adam became a living soul. He was a lump of silent lifeless formed dirt, until God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. Life comes from the attributes of God. Can it be proved in some way, that this component of man exists? For me, just the fact that there is life, is enough for me. And does an attribute of God such as life, cease to exist due to the death of the flesh? Does a part of God die at death? Believing to the saving of the soul, which would be an attribute of God that never dies, would be what salvation is all about for the Christian.
And yet monkeys are no longer giving birth to humans....weird....
Not the lasttime I looked it wasn't. People want to turn the Bible into some sort of quatrain that can't be understood, until someone comes along and says.."let me explain it to you"..God explained it pretty well, in my opinion. I like the first hand explination myself.That's all metaphorical... Adam was not a lifeless dirt, he was born like the rest of us, but his parents were monkeys... don't you know the book of Genesis is a metaphor for evolution?
If you are right, that's very depressing.When you die, you lose consciousness and your body breaks down and decays.
There is nothing more to the human make-up other than the material.
I believe as the Bible stated on how Adam became a living soul. He was a lump of silent lifeless formed dirt, until God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
Life comes from the attributes of God. Can it be proved in some way, that this component of man exists?
Actually there's quite a few scriptures that refer to the breath of God. It's not the same as our needing to exchange for oxygen. But the Bible says that God is a Spirit. So according to scripture when referring to the breath of God would be His Spirit. Which is life.Why did this 'dirt' have nostrils ?
Where did the 'breath of god' go, into the dirt's lungs ?
Why does god have breath, does god live in an environment where he must exchange gas with his lungs ?
Does god have lungs.
No, it does not exist, so it is going to be tough proving that it does.
And neither does what you believe or not believe have any bearing whatsoever on what truth is. Truth, if it is ultimate truth, has no dependence whatsoever on what you or I think the truth is.
What is ultimately depressing is if there is no ultimate truth, which obviously you don't think there is, and that's depressing and very sad.
Not the lasttime I looked it wasn't. People want to turn the Bible into some sort of quatrain that can't be understood, until someone comes along and says.."let me explain it to you"..God explained it pretty well, in my opinion. I like the first hand explination myself.
Actually there's quite a few scriptures that refer to the breath of God. It's not the same as our needing to exchange for oxygen. But the Bible says that God is a Spirit. So according to scripture when referring to the breath of God would be His Spirit. Which is life.
Job 27:3 All the while my breath [is] in me, and the spirit of God [is] in my nostrils;
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
Only from someone looking from the outside in on a secular world-view. It really isn't, and if you really want to know, I see the Christian ideology of this life being meaningless, just a struggle to the "heaven" that is supposedly there, as truly depressing.If you are right, that's very depressing.
"Actually there's quite a few scriptures that refer to the breath of God. It's not the same as our needing to exchange for oxygen. But the Bible says that God is a Spirit. So according to scripture when referring to the breath of God would be His Spirit. Which is life.And neither does what you believe or not believe have any bearing whatsoever on what truth is. Truth, if it is ultimate truth, has no dependence whatsoever on what you or I think the truth is.
What is ultimately depressing is if there is no ultimate truth, which obviously you don't think there is, and that's depressing and very sad.
No offense meant, but there is no distinction between truth and "ultimate truth." Atheists believe it is true that there is no god, you believe it is true that there is. Just because the atheist does not believe in the same "ultimate truth" that you do does not negate their worldview as "depressing." Besides, that's your opinion, and not a arguable fact, anyhow.And neither does what you believe or not believe have any bearing whatsoever on what truth is. Truth, if it is ultimate truth, has no dependence whatsoever on what you or I think the truth is.
What is ultimately depressing is if there is no ultimate truth, which obviously you don't think there is, and that's depressing and very sad.
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