Ed1wolf
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Less likely is all I am going for. It is called abductive reasoning, reasoning to the most likely explanation. And real individuality being true is the most likely explanation.So far is based on a necessarily limited perspective, you can't make claims that are throwing out other explanations without sufficient justification for why they are not needed rather than less likely (which is not the same as useless)
mm: I never claimed the universe was alive, or that energy was alive in the sense of biological life, that's strawmanning as if that's the only alternative. Even if I agree energy isn't alive that doesn't follow to anything regarding the existence of a deity or a soul or such supernatural things that are basically unfalsifiable in how they're described
Unlike other religions, Christianity is falsifiable. Because it is based on historical events.
mm: Christianity is "backed" by science insofar as people quote mine or selectively interpret science to fit notions that they wouldn't take seriously from any other religion. In short, confirmation bias tends to be how you "back" Christianity with science, treating the Bible as a scientific text rather than a narrative rooted in superstition and fantasy
No, most educated Christians dont claim it is a scientific text, but on the few areas it does touch on science, it has been shown to be basically correct when we realize God wants us to use His other book, Nature to understand it.
mm: Individuality is not self evident, that's circular reasoning, because the self is a perception of an individual, it's not something independently verifiable without more complex technology. You're hitting upon the solipsistic issues and don't appear to realize that you're digging yourself into a hole in suggesting that because we perceive something and it "makes sense" that we shouldn't consider any other explanations because they would counter that "common sense" perception we have.
Survival of the fittest is circular reasoning too, but most scientists consider it true. I didnt say we should not consider other explanations, but analyze them with every thing we have including self evident truths and common sense. And other considerations such as how we live our every day lives. It is similar to the problem with atheists living as if there is real objective meaning to life, when if there was no God then there is no real objective meaning to life. They have to live believing that there is meaning to life or they would go insane.
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