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And there can't be a solar eclipse when the moon is on the other side of the earth.

"Upon the whole world there came a most fearful darkness. Many rocks were split in two by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. It seems very unreasonable to me that Thallus, in the third book of his histories, would try to explain away this darkness as an eclipse of the sun. For the Jews celebrate their Passover on the 14th day according to the moon, and the death of our Saviour falls on the day before the Passover. But an eclipse of the sun can only take place when the moon comes under the sun, how then could an eclipse have occurred when the moon is directly opposite the sun?"

Though there was a lunar eclipse at the time, as in the prophecy of Joel 2:31 about the last days also mentioned in Acts 2:20 "The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord." and the sixth seal of Revelation 6:12 "...There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,"

The crucifixion can then be dated to Friday, April 3rd 33 AD.
http://holtz.org/Library/Social%20Science/History/Metals%20Age/Dating%20Jesus%20Death%20by%20Lunar%20Eclipse.htm
 
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And there can't be a solar eclipse when the moon is on the other side of the earth.
This was not a solar eclipse.

I believe God exercised His power over light and caused (told) the sun to stop giving her light.

Anyone present at the crucifixion, if they looked up into the sky, would see the constellation Aries.

Aries, in Greek, is a ram.

But in Hebrew, Aries is a lamb --- and Jesus is referred to as 'the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world.'
 
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This was not a solar eclipse.

I believe God exercised His power over light and caused (told) the sun to stop giving her light.

Anyone present at the crucifixion, if they looked up into the sky, would see the constellation Aries.

Aries, in Greek, is a ram.

But in Hebrew, Aries is a lamb --- and Jesus is referred to as 'the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world.'

Well, most of the time when God tells creation to do something it does so in full accordance with the laws of physics. In fact I don't think it ever does anything else. This doesn't make God any less of course. For example Thera erupted violently roundabout when the plagues beset Egypt and can account for several of the plagues. This does not disprove the plagues but rather makes them more likely to have actually found place.
 
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That's quite an embellishment.

You don't put retroactive falsification on paper and get away with it.

Three different [human] authors wrote the same thing.

That's more than coincidental.
It probably is. So they wrote the same thing either because they all saw it independently, or one saw it and the rest copied, or the texts were retroactively edited, or the texts were written a long time after the events and thus included the embellishments.

Correlation does not imply that they're all true.
 
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This was not a solar eclipse.

I believe God exercised His power over light and caused (told) the sun to stop giving her light.
Why? I mean, I'll accept for the sake of argument that God did some magic and hid the Sun, but for what purpose?

Anyone present at the crucifixion, if they looked up into the sky, would see the constellation Aries.

Aries, in Greek, is a ram.

But in Hebrew, Aries is a lamb --- and Jesus is referred to as 'the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world.'
That's quite a leap, especially since the constellations are pretty much arbitrary, and indeed change from culture to culture.
 
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Why? I mean, I'll accept for the sake of argument that God did some magic and hid the Sun, but for what purpose?
Interesting word choice.
That's quite a leap, especially since the constellations are pretty much arbitrary, and indeed change from culture to culture.
Gemini, to the Greeks, were twins; but the Hebrews knew Gemini as One and the Same Person: King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.

There's a big difference between what the Greeks called the Zodiac, and what Job called Mazzaroth.

We call that difference, Diabolical Mimicry or Diabolical Plagiarism.
 
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Interesting word choice.
Yes, I thought you'd like it.

Gemini, to the Greeks, were twins; but the Hebrews knew Gemini as One and the Same Person: King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.

There's a big difference between what the Greeks called the Zodiac, and what Job called Mazzaroth.

We call that difference, Diabolical Mimicry or Diabolical Plagiarism.
Is that the same thing as when Satan creates a religion that looks like Christianity before Christianity actually starts, thereby making is seem like Christianity plagiarised pre-Christian religions?
 
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Is that the same thing as when Satan creates a religion that looks like Christianity before Christianity actually starts, thereby making is seem like Christianity plagiarised pre-Christian religions?
That makes my brain hurt.
 
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Is that the same thing as when Satan creates a religion that looks like Christianity before Christianity actually starts, thereby making is seem like Christianity plagiarised pre-Christian religions?
Not exactly.

We say that whatever God has, Satan has a cheap imitation.

Here are some examples:

  • God documents the Flood; Satan documents the Epic of Gilgamesh.
  • God documents the Bible; Satan documents the Satanic Bible.
  • God prophecies; Satan predicts.
  • God works miracles; Satan works magic.
  • God is a Holy Triunity; Satan is an unholy trinity (Satan, antichrist, false prophet).
You get the picture.
 
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"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" (Genesis 1:14)

So Astrology is compatible with Christianity?
 
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Not exactly.

We say that whatever God has, Satan has a cheap imitation.

Here are some examples:

  • God documents the Flood; Satan documents the Epic of Gilgamesh.
  • God documents the Bible; Satan documents the Satanic Bible.
  • God prophecies; Satan predicts.
  • God works miracles; Satan works magic.
  • God is a Holy Triunity; Satan is an unholy trinity (Satan, antichrist, false prophet).
You get the picture.
Prediction is Satanic?
 
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Is that the same thing as when Satan creates a religion that looks like Christianity before Christianity actually starts, thereby making is seem like Christianity plagiarised pre-Christian religions?
I always thought that Christianity existed from since the beginning of creation as “the Lamb (Christ) that was slain from the creation of the world” “For he chose us (Christians) in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight”...Rev 13:8, Eph 1:4.
 
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"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" (Genesis 1:14)
So Astrology is compatible with Christianity?
No, Astronomy is.
 
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Wiccan_Child said:
Is that the same thing as when Satan creates a religion that looks like Christianity before Christianity actually starts, thereby making is seem like Christianity plagiarised pre-Christian religions?
Christianity has more to validate it than Mithraism.
Didn't Christianity Borrow From Other Religions?
 
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