as it was,so shall it be/choking on a gnat ?

[dlamberth]

And for the record, we don't all agree on the interpretation of the Second Amendment -- does that make a difference to you?

For myself, different interpretations of the Genesis Creation Story are allowed "IF" one acknowledge that their interpretation is just that, their interpretation.

But what strikes me as dubious is when a person claims their interpretation as God's Truth or calls the Jesus Card when their interpretation is brought into question. At that point, in my mind, they have just lost the argument.

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[Aman777]

For myself, different interpretations of the Genesis Creation Story are allowed "IF" one acknowledge that their interpretation is just that, their interpretation.

But what strikes me as dubious is when a person claims their interpretation as God's Truth or calls the Jesus Card when their interpretation is brought into question. At that point, in my mind, they have just lost the argument.
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Dear dlamberth, Depends on YOUR definition of God's Truth. My understanding is based on the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science, and History. That's God's Truth to me and it destroys Godless Evolutionism, since evolution does NOT agree with Scripture NOR History. It also shows that those who cannot support their views with this agreement, are usually blowing in the wind.

Some falsely accuse me of saying that I think that I am God or question my views, but NO one has been able to refute me Scripturally since I have placed my Faith in the Truth of God's Holy Word and it does agree, in EVERY way, including Literally, with every discovery of Science and History. IF that standard is too high for you, then you are left with your partial truth.

When you try to refute God's Truth, you will find that it doesn't matter whether YOU agree or Not. It's still God's Truth which stands against the false "beliefs" of mortal men. So, IF you wish to get as close as humanly possible to the ONE Truth, test it against EVERY other discovered Truth.

Then, you will see that God's Truth stands when measured against the "beliefs" of men which cannot be supported by Scripture, Science nor History. This gives you tremendous Faith in God's Truth, which is the "evidence of things not seen" by Godless men. It's PROOF of God.

BTW, Those who have NOT been born Spiritually by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are NOT Christians, (Romans 8:9) but instead are simply religionists who CANNOT support their views with God's Holy Word.

In Love,
Aman

 

[dlamberth]

BTW, Those who have NOT been born Spiritually by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are NOT Christians, (Romans 8:9) but instead are simply religionists who CANNOT support their views with God's Holy Word.

I'm clearly NOT a Christian, but not for any of the reason you give. With that said, I support my views on evolution by God's own Creation as created by God.

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[AV1611VET]

For myself, different interpretations of the Genesis Creation Story are allowed "IF" one acknowledge that their interpretation is just that, their interpretation.

Do you do the same with your interpretation?

 

[dlamberth]

Do you do the same with your interpretation?

Yes, I sure try to. Generally, I'll start out saying something like "For myself" or some other related statement.

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[CabVet]

Yes, I sure try to. Generally, I'll start out saying something like "For myself" or some other related statement.

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That's a first, good one!

 

[CabVet]

Your point can take a hike, CabVet.

Whether we disagree -- such as how to interpret Genesis 1, or whether we do agree -- such as who wrote the book of Matthew, it doesn't make a difference to you guys.

Of course my point can take a hike, it is disagreeing with you.

And for the record, we don't all agree on the interpretation of the Second Amendment -- does that make a difference to you?

Does not make a difference as long as we accept them for what they are: different interpretations. Now, if you start claiming that your interpretation is "the truth", then it starts to make a difference.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, I sure try to. Generally, I'll start out saying something like "For myself" or some other related statement.

I do that too ... to the point where it's nauseating.

But I get asked the "tough questions" that aren't expressely covered in the Scriptures.

That gets old after awhile, but I keep on with the "In my opinion ..."

Sometimes I will even bold it to make sure the person sees and understands it.

Later, I'm treated as if I said it as a universal truth.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's a first, good one!

Uh-huh.

 

[CabVet]

I do that too ... to the point where it's nauseating.

But I get asked the "tough questions" that aren't expressely covered in the Scriptures.

That gets old after awhile, but I keep on with the "In my opinion ..."

Sometimes I will even bold it to make sure the person sees and understands it.

Later, I'm treated as if I said it as a universal truth.

Let me see if I got this right, are you saying that embedded age is not a universal truth?

What about a week long creation approximately 6,000 years ago? Is that a universal truth?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Dear dlamberth, Depends on YOUR definition of God's Truth. My understanding is based on the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science, and History. That's God's Truth to me and it destroys Godless Evolutionism, since evolution does NOT agree with Scripture NOR History. It also shows that those who cannot support their views with this agreement, are usually blowing in the wind.

Some falsely accuse me of saying that I think that I am God or question my views, but NO one has been able to refute me Scripturally since I have placed my Faith in the Truth of God's Holy Word and it does agree, in EVERY way, including Literally, with every discovery of Science and History. IF that standard is too high for you, then you are left with your partial truth.

When you try to refute God's Truth, you will find that it doesn't matter whether YOU agree or Not. It's still God's Truth which stands against the false "beliefs" of mortal men. So, IF you wish to get as close as humanly possible to the ONE Truth, test it against EVERY other discovered Truth.

Then, you will see that God's Truth stands when measured against the "beliefs" of men which cannot be supported by Scripture, Science nor History. This gives you tremendous Faith in God's Truth, which is the "evidence of things not seen" by Godless men. It's PROOF of God.

BTW, Those who have NOT been born Spiritually by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are NOT Christians, (Romans 8:9) but instead are simply religionists who CANNOT support their views with God's Holy Word.

In Love,
Aman

So how come your interpretations of Genesis are not only refuted, but soundly laughed at even even by fellow Christians over in the Christians-only boards?

 

[AV1611VET]

Let me see if I got this right, are you saying that embedded age is not a universal truth?

What about a week long creation approximately 6,000 years ago? Is that a universal truth?

You're a pest, aren't you?

Did you graduate from the Spanish school of Ensayo de Ordalía?

 

[dlamberth]

It's still God's Truth which stands against the false "beliefs" of mortal men.

What God's Creation is showing is way closer to God's Truth than is the creation story of an ancient pre-Jewish middle-eastern tribe of desert nomads.

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[CabVet]

You're a pest, aren't you?

Did you graduate from the Spanish school of Ensayo de Ordalía?

No need to get defensive, I was asking an honest question. You are the one who wrote:

Sometimes I will even bold it to make sure the person sees and understands it.

Later, I'm treated as if I said it as a universal truth.

All I want to know is if you consider your own interpretation of Genesis 1 (a week long creation 6,000 years ago) as being "universal truth". Same applies for embedded age. I have always assumed you referred to both of those beliefs as universal truths, all I am doing is giving you a chance to correct me.

 

[Aman777]

Originally Posted by Aman777

BTW, Those who have NOT been born Spiritually by the agreement of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are NOT Christians, (Romans 8:9) but instead are simply religionists who CANNOT support their views with God's Holy Word.
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I'm clearly NOT a Christian, but not for any of the reason you give. With that said, I support my views on evolution by God's own Creation as created by God..

Dear dlamberth, It's NOT my opinion, but God's:

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

Jesus tells us HOW one is born of the Spiirt:

John 14:15 If ye love Me, keep My commandments.16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

So how come your interpretations of Genesis are not only refuted, but soundly laughed at even even by fellow Christians over in the Christians-only boards?

Dear TLK, I haven't seen those posts and I don't believe you have. I have Never had any problem with ANY Bible believing Christian. Either post where I have been soundly laughed at or everyone will see that you are so desperate, you've started making up things.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

iginally Posted by Aman777

It's still God's Truth which stands against the false "beliefs" of mortal men.
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What God's Creation is showing is way closer to God's Truth than is the creation story of an ancient pre-Jewish middle-eastern tribe of desert nomads..

Dear dlamberth, Since God is the Author of ALL Scripture, you just lost your credibility. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is ALL you have to support your beliefs, since knowledge of this world is only 1/3 of the entirety of Creation. Your's is but a partial truth.

In Love,
Aman

 

[CabVet]

It's NOT my opinion, but God's

All hail Aman! The bringer of the one true interpretation of the word of God!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Dear TLK, I haven't seen those posts and I don't believe you have. I have Never had any problem with ANY Bible believing Christian. Either post where I have been soundly laughed at or everyone will see that you are so desperate, you've started making up things.

In Love,
Aman

"laughing" is a bit of an embellishment, since to do so overtly construed as flaming -- but they've most certainly stopped taking you seriously, which is never a good sign between believers.


http://www.christianforums.com/t7747930/#post63315975

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-3/#post62845277

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-4/#post62880399

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-4/#post62881345

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-5/#post62886744

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-5/#post62886760

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-5/#post62889831

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-6/#post62897151

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-8/#post62943314

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-9/#post62950417

http://www.christianforums.com/t7736033-11/#post63043603

What's especially interesting here is that I am familiar with some of the posters who have tried to reason with you, and while I've never quite seen eye-to-eye with some of them, they've gone so far as to dismiss you as "absurd."

Special credit should be given to Assyrian, who tried so sincerely to school you on these matters, as well as the proper use of the quote feature -- whcih you still haven't quite gotten the hang of.

 

[dlamberth]

Dear dlamberth, It's NOT my opinion, but God's:

Your stand alone interpretation of the Genesis Creation Story IS your opinion. No one else stands with you in your interpretation. And I question your hiding behind the God card with your interpretation of the Genesis Creation Story when absolutely no one else in the world is standing with you in what you have read into that story.
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