Originally Posted by
Aman777
Dear TLK, Thanks for admitting that you "embellished" and Failed to live up to your previous accusations. I told you I didn't believe you and I'm happy to see that you have repented of your exaggerated post. I suspect that you are more interested in keeping out of trouble with TOS, but thank you for your admission.
People laugh at the absurd -- whether it is the TOS or common courtesy that keeps them from doing so to your face, well... believe what you wish.
Dear TLK, I will, since it makes NO difference to me IF the whole world is against me, since I support my "absurd" views with God's Holy Word. What YOU have done is to take ONE word, which showed the frustration of a YEC with my views, out of context and are trying to build a mountain out of it. Instead of being ashamed of your deceptivness, you glory in it. This says more about your "absurd" views than mine.
Aman:>>Scripture tells us to "try the Spirits" and the Christians here are doing just that because my views are NOT the traditional views because Scripture does NOT say what the traditional religious view teaches. When you point out a problem with a particular religious view, you can expect opposition.
And I see opposition on both sides -- makes me wonder who has the problem.
Most Christians don't like my agreement with OEC, and the fact that I agree with 99% of the ToE. My only opposition is with the Lies of the ToE which are being forced upon our children in the Public Schools of the U.S. Godless Evols insist that I should reject God's Truth in favor or their Lies.
Don't get me wrong -- you're certainly free to embrace your own religious view, defend it, and try to justify it. Passing it off as "God's Truth" before it's been tempered (some might say "baptized by fire"; I'd say "passed the laugh test") is hubris.
I have NO religion, since religion is a "belief" like Godless Evols have in the False ToE. I am a Christian, which means that God is within me. I don't have to post of my beliefs since I can support my views with God's Truth, which is the AGREEMENT of Scripture, Science, and History, which destroys the ToE.
Aman:>>Assyrian, among others, is a Theistic Evolution advocate who will Never agree with me since it destroys his Evol views. Neither will dlamberth since I don't agree with his Scripturally unsupportable views, so expect that I will find NO agreement with ANYone who believes in the False ToE.
Actually, you may find that you have more in common with Theistic evolutionists than you realize. Consider: Both you and they are looking for a synthesis of Biblical interpretation and scientific knowledge.
My problem with TEs is that they embrace the LIE that we evolved from Apes. Most of them refuse to believe God's Holy Word since it destroys their false religion of Evolutionism. God tell us that Humans are the result of a Special Creation, but TEs insist that we evolved, but they MUST reject God's Truth in favor of their devotion to the False ToE. They call Scripture Myth, and Allegory, which is obviously their own misinterpretation.
Theistic evolutionists are looking at scientific facts which cannot be reasonably refuted, and, realizing that God's actions can not be false any more than His words, look to rethink their interpretation of Scripture to accommodate that which they cannot refute.
They choose the Fable of men, the False ToE above God's Holy Word.
It's really quite simple -- you have God's actions, God's words, and man's interpretation of both. If they do not reconcile nicely, the error cannot be on God's part, but in man's. TEs choose not to question their interpretation of God's actions, believing (reasonably so) that the weak link is in the traditional interpretation of Scripture, and attempt to reinterpret it accordingly.
False. It's their allegiance to man's knowledge instead of Faith in God's Truth as written in Scripture.
Look at that carefully, because you do the same thing -- "believing (reasonably so) that the weak link is in the traditional interpretation of Scripture, and attempt to reinterpret it accordingly."
False. I don't accept the views of Ancient men who could NOT understand the Supreme intelligence's account of the Creation. This has NOTHING to do with their Faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which IS the power of God unto Salvation, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For me, it's following the theology of people who called for the Crucifixion of their own God.
But here's the difference between you and them -- your self-imposed agenda to refute the "false TOE" -- to succeed where literally thousands of more learned theologians than you have failed -- combined with your assertions that your interpretations are, in fact, not your own, but "God's truth," have all but obliterated the kind of humility that any student of science and/or theology should have in abundance.
True, but in doing so, I am following the lead of Jesus Christ, who told us:
Jhn 15:20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his Lord. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.
The result? Rather than reinterpret Scripture as TEs do, you attempt to retroactively interpret Scripture to claim that it has agreed with you all along.
It has, but ancient men could NOT understand the scientific Truth which it presented thousands of years ago. It's PROOF that ONLY God could have authored Scripture. That is MY point.
It's actually very similar to Orwell's Ministry of Truth in Nineteen Eighty-Four, rewriting all those nasty historical facts which get in the way. "He who controls the past controls the future, and he who controls the present controls the past."
Since I study Scripture, it makes little difference to me what Orwell or any other man thinks. I prefer to study God's Truth, which changes NOT.
Alas, you are not very successful at doing so, probably due in no small part to the fact hat the interpretations that you are espousing are... shall we say, whimsical at best? It's hard on both an intellectual and an emotional level to believe that the Authors of the Bible were inspired by a similarly whimsical God.
That is YOUR Godless opinion. I succeed, not on this Planet, but when I get to Heaven. I am storing up treasures there, insted of here. You won't understand that because your view is limited to this lost and dying world.
Aman:>>I do find agreement with most Bible believing Christians even though my views do NOT agree with their ideas. This is because they recognize that I do support my views with God's Holy Word.
That could also be "The enemy of my enemy," and all that.
Sure it could, but ALL Christians should do all they can to remove the false teaching of Godless Evols, which has been taking place in our Public Schools, for far too long. Otherwise we are complicit with their Blasphemous teaching.
Aman:>>So don't pay too much attention to agnostics, atheists, and believers who cannot support their views with Scripture.
I imagine you don't pay much attention to anyone who doesn't recognize your keen insights.
Sure I do, since that is the reason I support MicroEvolution which I call Adaptation within His kinds. Anything else is a big Lie of Godless men.
Aman:>>I welcome ALL disagreement since this allows God's Truth to come to the front of the debate.
That would be welcome -- One might even come to the conclusion that God's Truth is something that cannot be easily contained, even in a vessel such as Scripture itself.
That is stinkin thinking, according to many of the preachers I admire.
For You have magnified Your Word above all Your name. Psalm 138:2
It would be easy -- far too easy -- to think of God as the Wise Old Man on His heavenly throne, meting our rewards and punishments according to an arbitrary set of rules. That's how those first writers understood God, as they fumbled to establish some sort of relationship with Him, to encapsulate Him in terms that they could understand.
It wouldn't be easy for me since I see God in the Face of Jesus, the ONLY God ever formed physically, or that ever will be formed physically.
But isn't God far more than that?
If He is, shouldn't we be ready to accept that there are some parts of "God's Truth" that Scripture simply isn't going to help us with?
If He is not, why bother worshiping Him?
Because God is Love, which no unbeliever can truly understand. He is also the ONLY immortal Being in existence, and those who are NOT in Him are lost forever to the evil of the darkness.
Aman:>>I am happy when Bible believers question my views for it allows everyone, believer and skeptic alike, to see what is actually written. So thanks again for your back peddling since it is unfair to ALL to suggest that EVERYone should agree with ALL of their views.
I have the utmost faith and confidence in any human being worth talking to -- be they Christian, non-Christian, or what-have-you, to know a good joke when they see it, when they hear it, and even on those occasions when they are it.
Your faith is misplaced, since mortal man is depraved and will always let you down, but Jesus will always be True.
There's a word for people who claim to speak "God's Truth" -- prophet. And I do recall the Bible warning people about false prophets.
False prophets do NOT support their views with God's Holy Word. One of my favorite verse is this one:
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
I haven't had that problem, since most men do NOT speak well of me, especially Godless ones.
As a rule of thumb, I've found there's a pretty good way to tell a false prophet from the real McCoy -- the false ones take themselves way too seriously.
I don't follow the rules of my thumb, but instead of God's Holy Word.
In Love, Aman
A strange love indeed -- but I've grown accustomed to it.
I am saying In Love, which is (In God or In Christ.) I am not saying that I am in love with the ways of Godless Heathens, but I do love the Brethren, whatever their belief in the story of the Creation.
IF you, as an unbeliever, agreed with me, then I would know I was wrong.
In Love,
Aman
