As a Protestant, Am I damned to Hell?

[laconicstudent]

A laughable observation in light of the constant redefinitions & self contradictions,

...which clearly means that instead of asking for clarification, you should simply assume you know their beliefs better then they do.

rather than the usual haughty put down you were hoping for.

Considering it is the Protestant posters repeating the "haughty put down", as you put it, even though the Catholics are denying it, repeatedly, I kind of doubt it.

 

[laconicstudent]

just so you know we're not crazy

What you quoted was in response to an anecdote of a woman who was Roman Catholic, but is no longer. The situation is different for her then it is for those of us who were never Roman Catholics.

(RCs: If I'm wrong, correct me)

 

[chestertonrules]

What you quoted was in response to an anecdote of a woman who was Roman Catholic, but is no longer. The situation is different for her then it is for those of us who were never Roman Catholics.

(RCs: If I'm wrong, correct me)

You are not wrong.

However, even for former Roman Catholics knowledge and understanding are a factor.

It is the willful rejection of an acknowledged truth that leads to separation from God.

 

[Standing Up]

What you quoted was in response to an anecdote of a woman who was Roman Catholic, but is no longer. The situation is different for her then it is for those of us who were never Roman Catholics.

(RCs: If I'm wrong, correct me)

Glad to see the difference made.

 

[Secundulus]

Now what?

Prepare ye the shield and buckler, and go forth to battle.
JER 46:3

 

[Rick Otto]

Originally Posted by OpenDoor

ok...
so when Trent used the word anathema, did they mean cut off from Christ or excomunicated from the Roman Catholic Church?

I honestly don't know. I don't think it means cut off from the body of christ.

I asked at ewtn to get an answer from one of their experts.

So it may take a few days.

I did find this in their archive of previously asked questions.

Document Title

Anathemas
Question from on 01-01-2008: I understand that anathemas no longer exist, since the 1982 revision of canon law. What happened to people who were under anathema when it was deleted from canon law?Thanks and Merry Christmas, Happy New Year!
Answer by Rev. Mark J. Gantley, JCL on 01-08-2008: Anathemas (condemnations) were used in the canons issued by the early ecumenical councils of the Church. The council would issue decrees, and then at the end would issue anathemas to those who do the opposite of what they said was to be done.This format for canons did not exist in the 1917 Code of Canon Law or in the current 1983 Code of Canon Law, so it is not an issue.

Sounds like it left them vulnerable to vigilanties & boycotts, otherwise, where's the teeth in it?

 

[OpenDoor]

What you quoted was in response to an anecdote of a woman who was Roman Catholic, but is no longer. The situation is different for her then it is for those of us who were never Roman Catholics.

(RCs: If I'm wrong, correct me)

and several posters in the thread (myself included) fall into this category

 

[simonthezealot]

What you quoted was in response to an anecdote of a woman who was Roman Catholic, but is no longer. The situation is different for her then it is for those of us who were never Roman Catholics.

(RCs: If I'm wrong, correct me)

This is exactly like the Jehovh Witness treat those leaving their cult, isn't that kind of a telling thing?

 

[Teke]

Vladimir Moss describes conciliar anathemas as the time when the Church publicly discerns when heresy has arisen and cut off certain members of the Church. Note that usually the heresy has already been in effect for some time before such official proclamations.

Basically the church declares that you have freely chosen to cut yourself off from the church (meaning you have chosen heresy over the apostolic teachings).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This is exactly like the Jehovh Witness treat those leaving their cult, isn't that kind of a telling thing?

I went to the UT board to check out the JW board and noticed they combined the seperate boards of the JWs and LDSs into one.....

http://www.christianforums.com/t7467647/
UT Special Announcement-Restructure coming to UT...

*snip*

The combining of these sub forums into one is also intended to not give favoritism to some unorthodox groups over the others.

 

[Standing Up]

This is exactly like the Jehovh Witness treat those leaving their cult, isn't that kind of a telling thing?

Powerful motivator--ya can't be saved unless ya join my group 'cause grace flows not direct from God, but through us and He set us up and even though it can't be proven and contradicts what God says, we find mere traces there, but extra biblical stuff more authoritative and now we recognize these things, blah, blah, blah.

 

[Sherha]

If you are born again, you are not damned to hell: read John 3:3-7; Ezek 36:26,27.

 

[GigageiTsula]

Powerful motivator--ya can't be saved unless ya join my group 'cause grace flows not direct from God, but through us and He set us up and even though it can't be proven and contradicts what God says, we find mere traces there, but extra biblical stuff more authoritative and now we recognize these things, blah, blah, blah.

That about sums it up.

 

[chestertonrules]

and several posters in the thread (myself included) fall into this category

You may be the victim of poor catechesis or you may have chosen a path that allows you to ignore the moral teachings of the Church.

There is a big difference. If you are sincerely seeking Jesus then I don't think your salvation is in jeopardy. However, this is not always the case.

For example, many Catholics leave the Church because they want to divorce and remarry. If that is the case, then I think a person is in a dangerous and rebellious position with respect to God.

 

[laconicstudent]

and several posters in the thread (myself included) fall into this category

I am aware of that.

 

[lionroar0]

This is exactly like the Jehovh Witness treat those leaving their cult, isn't that kind of a telling thing?

The same can be said of those stating that Catholics are damned.

 

[Rick Otto]

The same can be said of those stating that Catholics are damned.

How 'bout "Catholicism", not "Catholics"?

 

[Standing Up]

How 'bout "Catholicism", not "Catholics"?

or RC for Roman Catholic

 

[MamaZ]

How 'bout "Catholicism", not "Catholics"?

 

[chestertonrules]

How 'bout "Catholicism", not "Catholics"?

How about protestantism(especially Calvinism, which denies the body and blood of Jesus!), but not all protestants?