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The Freed to believe section as requested for my statement regarding free will of Arminians
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http://evangelicalarminians.org/the...nian-theologythe-biblical-doctrines-of-grace/Please provide me with statements made by Arminians that support your contention. Please provide the sources as well.
Now tell me what Arminius wrote about that same topic, providing references for those sources.
Otherwise you are making assertions but providing no evidence. Up to this point you have provided no specific evidence (with sources) to support your claims about Arminians.
Oz
I think it's s bit disingenuous to say that Cavinists (or anyone's) judgement is almost always false, and to compare them to Satan. As a Calvinist, I think an apology is in order.If Calvinist are God's elect why are their judgement of others almost always false. BTW that is being the accuser if it is not truth and that is satan's titled.
http://evangelicalarminians.org/the...nian-theologythe-biblical-doctrines-of-grace/
The Freed to believe section as requested for my statement regarding free will of Arminians
In context of the chapter, this means all types of people. Any other understanding leads to universalism. I'm sure you'd agree.That's what Titus 2:11 (ESV) states: 'For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people'.
The evangelical Arminians are confirming nothing more or less than is in Scripture.
Oz
In context of the chapter, this means all types of people. Any other understanding leads to universalism. I'm sure you'd agree.
It doesn't make it eisegesis because Paul just finished discussing all types of people in the verses leading up to v. 11.John,
That's the kind of response I receive from Calvinists and it is what I get when exposing the fact that Titus 2:11 does not teach universalism. It also doesn't say anything in context about what you want it to say, 'all types of people'. Forcing 'all types', in my understanding, makes your view eisegesis - imposing on the text.
See my response to this in my article, How to interpret ‘appeared’ in Titus 2:11
Oz
Yes, he died for all people, but that never took away their sin until they repent and are baptized. Paul never stated all people were bought with a price. Christ died for all, but it's effect is not received until second birth.That's what Titus 2:11 (ESV) states: 'For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people'.
The evangelical Arminians are confirming nothing more or less than is in Scripture.
Oz
It doesn't make it eisegesis because Paul just finished discussing all types of people in the verses leading up to v. 11.
On top of that, Paul goes on to explain the result of salvation appearing. That's obviously not important to you. You just seem happy that you found salvation and all in one verse. Heck with the rest.
Yes, he died for all people, but that never took away their sin until they repent and are baptized. Paul never stated all people were bought with a price. Christ died for all, but it's effect is not received until second birth.
Using a blog article in an online discussion is lazy. I could just post a link to counter. But I can tell that you are more interested in your view than the truth. The proof being that you not only used Titus 2:11 as a proof text, you couldn't even post the whole sentence.That's a false conclusion and I've given you my explanation in the article link I provided. 'Heck with the rest' is your pejorative dumping on me.
Do you believe that death comes about because of sin?It would stand to reason that even the idea of free grace could be rejected. Unless, Calvinists believe that people ALWAYS accept the Gospel the first time it is preached. Which is not true. Babies, very young children and those who otherwise cannot understand basic concepts must less those that are complex in nature are unable to accept or reject anything. Plus, they personally have done nothing for which they can be held accountable.
You mean overall or a particular person's.Do you believe that death comes about because of sin?
A particular person. The wages of sin is death, and all that.You mean overall or a particular person's.
Well, there are certain life choices people can make that make an early death more likely.A particular person. The wages of sin is death, and all that.
I disagree but due to Baptist forum SOF I'm not allowed to discuss. On this I'm firmly in the Lutheran camp. So I stated it in a specific way that doesn't go against Scripture and the Baptist SOF.I agree that Jesus died for all of the human race and that does not take about their sins until they repent and place their faith in Christ alone for salvation.
I do not accept your statement that people's sin was not taken away until they repented and were baptised. I don't find that teaching in Scripture. Yes, they are called on to repent and be baptised, but that is not teaching baptismal regeneration as Matt 28:18-20 makes clear. Baptism is associated with discipleship.
Not what I'm talking about. Do you believe scripture where it says the wages of sin is death?Well, there are certain life choices people can make that make an early death more likely.
yesNot what I'm talking about. Do you believe scripture where it says the wages of sin is death?
Then why do babies die?
I am not sure. I do know that EVERY life owes a death at some point.Then why do babies die?
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