Armenian Church about Body of Christ: Severus, julianism or incorruption?

[Theophilus Agapee]

No, because if this were true, the Copts and Syriacs and Ethiopians would have severed communion with the Armenians.

And this is the problem: all these Churches need reformation.

Plus, we have seen that Aram I venerated the relics of Severus. They keep diplomacy (per Tigran), or hypocrisy, so that they may not be separated from the communion.

 

[The Liturgist]

And this is the problem: all these Churches need reformation.

Reformation in what way? I’m not aware of any problems with the Coptic Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic or Syriac Orthodox church on a substantial level.

The word Reformation implies some kind of Protestant-style iconclasm.

 

[Theophilus Agapee]

Reformation in what way? I’m not aware of any problems with the Coptic Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic or Syriac Orthodox church on a substantial level.

The word Reformation implies some kind of Protestant-style iconclasm.

These Churches refuse the true Gospel.

 

[Tigran1245]

It's normal to be all-inclusive when you are not the Pillar and Support of the truth.

Being all-inclusive is one of the main criteria of being a Pillar and Support of the truth. Only schismatics and heretics isolate themselves from others.

St. Nerses of Lambron condemns Church isolation:

«Here is what some, intoxicated with hatred, also say: Our Fathers rejected the schismatics and wanted nothing to do with heretics; the Apostle said: "But if anyone will not hear our word in this letter, mark him and do not keep company with him, that you may shame him" (2 Thess. 3:14) and the like. To this I will answer them: I know all this too; but you be silent, do not distort the truth with the desire to find in it a defense for your passion. Consider these words in the right way and let shame cover us! Indeed, in what sense did the Apostle and the saints write this? In the sense that by removing all believers from the heretic, they would force the latter to be ashamed and thereby join their unity. But in our time there is no longer shame, but only contempt for one another reigns. It is not that some of us, we all have become heretics. A heretic means a schismatic; Do we not see all Christian nations disunited and separated from each other, and having a separate Church, separate assemblies, separate pulpits? In our time, what is the use of one separating from another, or of not communicating with the disobedient? For if you separate yourself from him, he in turn, without shame, separates himself from you, having his own Church, which receives him; seeing you neglect him, he turns to his Church and his own people: he is not ashamed, but rather proud of having separated himself from you.»

 

[Theophilus Agapee]

Being all-inclusive is one of the main criteria of being a Pillar and Support of the truth. Only schismatics and heretics isolate themselves from others.

Then you need to explain the usefulness of anathemas.

 

[Tigran1245]

Then you need to explain the usefulness of anathemas.

Anathema is not magic or sacrament, that after anathema something supposedly happens. No. It is simply a fixation of the Church's doctrine, the correct faith.

If a person knows the right faith, but persists in error, then he commits a sin. Anathema is about this.

But if he does not agree with the correct doctrine through insurmountable ignorance, then of course there will be no sin. And such a person, having a minimum of religion, can be saved.

 

[Theophilus Agapee]

Anathema is not magic or sacrament, that after anathema something supposedly happens. No. It is simply a fixation of the Church's doctrine, the correct faith.

If a person knows the right faith, but persists in error, then he commits a sin. Anathema is about this.

But if he does not agree with the correct doctrine through insurmountable ignorance, then of course there will be no sin. And such a person, having a minimum of religion, can be saved.

And thus anathema (accursed) is all-inclusiveness. I see the logic...