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Arkansas executes Ledell Lee in first death penalty use in 12 years

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Tallguy88, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    Arkansas has executed Ledell Lee in the US state's first use of the death penalty in 12 years.

    It came after the US Supreme Court rejected a challenge arguing Arkansas was unfairly rushing several executions before its supply of a lethal injection drug expires at the end of April.

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    He had been on death row for more than 20 years after he was convicted of beating Debra Reese to death with a tyre thumper in 1993.

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39662139
     
  2. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    I think "tyre" might be a British misspelling of "tire".
     
  3. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    I am personally not big on capital punishment, but it is the law in some states and the supreme court has upheld the legality of capital punishment.
     
  4. Goonie

    Goonie Not so Mystic Mog. Supporter

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    Or is it an american misspelling?
     
  5. dgiharris

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    My biggest fear with Capital punishment cases is that our justice system isn't very good if you don't have a lot of money to pay for a good lawyer.

    Public defender spends an average of 9 minutes on a case.

    Even when they knuckle down and take your case, they end up spending less than 10% of the time that a hired defense attorney would spend on your case.

    Beyond that, there is our whole system. Police plant evidence all the time when they "believe" that you are guilty. And then there is circumstantial evidence. If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time...

    Add all that up, and it leads to an uncomfortable amount of innocent people being convicted of crimes. Granted, I have no hard numbers for what percentage of death row inmates are innocent.
     
  6. bhsmte

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    Main reason I am not for capital punishment.
     
  7. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    In my state (the one in question) the public defenders in death penalty cases tend to be better than private attornies, since the public defenders have a much greater amount of experience with the cases. 99% of private criminal attornies will never argue a death penalty case.
     
  8. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    That may be, but it does take a lot of money in our system to put up a robust defense. The hiring of experts for testimony and the research and investigation that has to be done, is typically not within the abilities of a public defenders office.
     
  9. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    so long as due process is followed... Personally, I think we need a better reason to take shortcuts around it then "we gotta do this quick before our poison passes its expiration date!"
     
  10. Nithavela

    Nithavela *Teleports behind you*

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    Now you're just being sillie.
     
  11. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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  12. Nithavela

    Nithavela *Teleports behind you*

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    Wuuuuh! Death! Death! Death! Yeah!
     
  13. pat34lee

    pat34lee Messianic

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    Death is not a cause for celebration. Justice served is the cause.
     
  14. Nithavela

    Nithavela *Teleports behind you*

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    More cause for partying if you celebrate death. Just like that old Rick Springfield song.
     
  15. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Perhaps -- but remember what the reason was for the big hurry.
     
  16. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    Please don't post mocking nonsense. No one here is celebrating these men's deaths.
     
  17. Nithavela

    Nithavela *Teleports behind you*

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    I am. Party at my house, bring your own bottle.
     
  18. Tallguy88

    Tallguy88 We shall see the King when he comes! Staff Member Administrator Supporter

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    Do it your own thread then. It's distasteful.
     
  19. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    If this is not an event to be celebrated, why the hurry to do it?
     
  20. Paradoxum

    Paradoxum Liberty, Equality, Solidarity!

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    I think people have a right to life, and you should only kill if you have to. The death penalty is never needed because they can be locked up for life is necessary.
     
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