Argument against Dualism.

[AskTheFamily]

By definition, material and non-material are opposites, spiritual type existence I am defining as the opposite of material type existence. And material as opposite.

When we imagine ourselves, we imagine a table is formed out of non-idea type - non who type existence. This is what is meant by material existence.

However, because it's the opposite, it can have no interaction nor create the opposite effect, the spiritual idea type existence.

When we see colours and that kind of stuff, whatever rules exist in the world that we get that, at the end, it's conceptual. Red is conceptual, it's an idea we experience. Don't confuse with the rays that go to our eyes and then our brain creates the idea of red.

As there is no interaction between the two as they by definition are opposites. These opposites have no relationship to each other because that is how we conceptually define them, we define material existence as the opposite of idea reality type existence.

The only thing we know that exists, for sure, is idea type existence. Therefore material type existence because they cannot interact with us, we have no proof for.

Everything we experience therefore is of the idea type existence and so it's proven this world is made out spiritual things. Everything has a spiritual word concept reality created. The interactions hence don't make sense purely by physical laws, but rather, these laws are imposed upon spiritual things. Everything is obeying these laws and flowing with it, but how?

The best explanation is a Lord who has mastery over all things. Angels are also necessary to control and command the lesser type existences and apply rules to them.

This is because they are idea type existences. The earth therefore has a spirit. The sky and universe has a spirit.

The atoms, electrons, all awareness with knowledge.

They interact with us and pass on ancient knowledge to our souls all the time.

They pray for us, they witness us, and have perception.

This again is the only type of existence possible to experience.

Also another argument is we apply what we know exists (us) and assume the negation of that, the opposite to material. But that means we assume the opposite to the only existence we know.

We assume we are not real, but we know we are real.

The reality of God then is more akin to light/luminosity/word type existence. Idea type existence like us.

The eternal origin and source is also non-material. As it's the highest existence, it's the highest consciousness, but this realm is not material.

Nothing is material.

Materiality is an illusion.

I will show the argument form (premises leading to conclusion) if requested for the two arguments contained here.

 

[WESTOZZIE]

Yes the earth has a spiritual counterpart--it is heaven.
To enter into the reality of the Spirit one must be born again ---this time spiritually.

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?"
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.'
Joh 3:8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

 

[bcbsr]

By definition, material and non-material are opposites, spiritual type existence I am defining as the opposite of material type existence. And material as opposite.

When we imagine ourselves, we imagine a table is formed out of non-idea type - non who type existence. This is what is meant by material existence.

However, because it's the opposite, it can have no interaction nor create the opposite effect, the spiritual idea type existence.

When we see colours and that kind of stuff, whatever rules exist in the world that we get that, at the end, it's conceptual. Red is conceptual, it's an idea we experience. Don't confuse with the rays that go to our eyes and then our brain creates the idea of red.

As there is no interaction between the two as they by definition are opposites. These opposites have no relationship to each other because that is how we conceptually define them, we define material existence as the opposite of idea reality type existence.

The only thing we know that exists, for sure, is idea type existence. Therefore material type existence because they cannot interact with us, we have no proof for.

Everything we experience therefore is of the idea type existence and so it's proven this world is made out spiritual things. Everything has a spiritual word concept reality created. The interactions hence don't make sense purely by physical laws, but rather, these laws are imposed upon spiritual things. Everything is obeying these laws and flowing with it, but how?

The best explanation is a Lord who has mastery over all things. Angels are also necessary to control and command the lesser type existences and apply rules to them.

This is because they are idea type existences. The earth therefore has a spirit. The sky and universe has a spirit.

The atoms, electrons, all awareness with knowledge.

They interact with us and pass on ancient knowledge to our souls all the time.

They pray for us, they witness us, and have perception.

This again is the only type of existence possible to experience.

Also another argument is we apply what we know exists (us) and assume the negation of that, the opposite to material. But that means we assume the opposite to the only existence we know.

We assume we are not real, but we know we are real.

The reality of God then is more akin to light/luminosity/word type existence. Idea type existence like us.

The eternal origin and source is also non-material. As it's the highest existence, it's the highest consciousness, but this realm is not material.

Nothing is material.

Materiality is an illusion.

I will show the argument form (premises leading to conclusion) if requested for the two arguments contained here.

What's the application?

I understand what you're proposing that "nothing is material" insomuch as our perception of the material itself may be classified as spiritual (an idea). But it's just an hypothesis which cannot be fasified nor verified. It's like those who propose we're all living in the Matrix, or a dream.

There's no useful application to the hypothesis.

 

[AskTheFamily]

I believe in those words, I just don't believe that church inherited the position and authority of Jesus or became his representatives or body, rather, he was succeeded by those who were the Spirit as well, the holy spirit by which God guides who he will through, the light, the word of truth brought to life. Anyways, please don't shift the topic!

 

[AskTheFamily]

What's the application?

I understand what you're proposing that "nothing is material" insomuch as our perception of the material itself may be classified as spiritual (an idea). But it's just an hypothesis which cannot be fasified nor verified. It's like those who propose we're all living in the Matrix, or a dream.

There's no useful application to the hypothesis.

Dualism is impossible, truth is a reward for itself, and the application, is that you see everything for what it truly is, ideas spoken by God and that we are ideas and ascension and descent of the truth of God's words brought to life, the lanterns in the sky, all have to do with recognize goodness for what it is. Which is not a code written by material dna or concepts created material mind. Goodness is God's living word of light and holding on to it and loving it and drawing closer to it and evil is the falsehood, the disgusting unclean word, by which corrupts all things, and brings them to negative existence where everything is seen by eyes of falsehood.

It's to see that falsehood has a direct effect on our true existence and lowers it, while truth raises and brings it close to reality (God) by which all things exist.

This knowledge is so manifest to those who hold on to it, and it's benefits is that you constantly are reminded of God and don't trick yourself by flesh and measure things and existence by falsehood.

 

[Tolworth John]

This is because they are idea type existences. The earth therefore has a spirit. The sky and universe has a spirit.
The atoms, electrons, all awareness with knowledge.
They interact with us and pass on ancient knowledge to our souls all the time.
They pray for us, they witness us, and have perception.

God created all things as the bible says, yet the only creatures with a spirit are man.

Inanimate objects don't have a spirit.

 

[dlamberth]

God created all things as the bible says, yet the only creatures with a spirit are man.

Inanimate objects don't have a spirit.

My dogs and cats are NOT inanimate objects. Thus, they must have Souls.