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It reveals that we are under a New Covenant now... based on better promises such as revelation of what Jesus did for us at the Cross and revelation of what is actually going on in the spirit.
None of this was available under the OT and yes I understand and realize that some today cling to the OT and no little of what it means to be a New Covenant believer.
It reveals that we are under a New Covenant now... based on better promises such as revelation of what Jesus did for us at the Cross and revelation of what is actually going on in the spirit.
None of this was available under the OT and yes I understand and realize that some today cling to the OT and no little of what it means to be a New Covenant believer.
The purpose of fasting is to bring us to the point where we depend upon God for our very existence. It is little wonder that the devil has no power over one such as this-Jesus being a prime example
I have not negated the Cross by my statement. you will also recal Jesus saying: "The things I do you will do also--" Perhaps if we we want results there are some prerecquisitionsmost scriptures point to the cross as the victory over the devil, one puts fasting on man's glory, another gives God the glory, see col 2:15, that is where the defeat came, the cross.
Paul speaks of the cross, and resurrection, not so much on fasting, see col 3, death, then resurrection. Gal 5:24-25, and Rom 6.
I have not negated the Cross by my statement. you will also recal Jesus saying: "The things I do you will do also--" Perhaps if we we want results there are some prerecquisitions
Unless she has been molested by my wife or I, that isn't a possibility.
As I stated in my other reply to you, we are following the doctor's instructions as we had to page him as he was out of the office. If after 12 hours there is no improvement, then we can call to bring her in tomorrow.
Oh and yes, only a headache. Which thankfully after taking an ibuprofen went away.
Actually Matt. 17.21 is one of those missing verses in every reputable modern translations of the Bible (ESV, NIV, NLT, GNT, ERV, CJB, etc. see here) and is relegated to a footnote to explain why it is a dubious inclusion into the original. In my opinion, based on this, Jesus NEVER said This kind goes not out without prayer and fasting. Personally, through the years, I have cast out many demons and have yet to fast in order to accomplish the feat. I simply exercised the authority of Jesus name. Otherwise, there is nothing I have done or could ever do to subjugate a demon to my will.
The purpose of fasting is to bring us to the point where we depend upon God for our very existence. It is little wonder that the devil has no power over one such as this-Jesus being a prime example
That seems to be my experience as well. But often I've seen people get legalistic about the fasting. It kinda seems perhaps the fasting/prayer can break the unbelief and perhaps move someone into faith. But again, not trying to get legalistic about it. The source is Christ and the cross.
The question I have usually is are we missing something by not humbling ourselves in time of prayer/fasting. And, I'm not talking about all the crazy legalistic fasting founded on pride. I mean a true heart felt humbling ourselves to seek the one true God in prayer with fasting.
Probably, but the whole idea of fasting has been skewed, IMO. The practice, at least the way it is done today, seems very works-oriented to me. Its like saying, If I punish my body enough God will be forced to do what I want or, at least, I will be able to whip myself to some spiritual level that meets Gods requirements (like the Flagellants of the Middle Ages, see here). I know fasting is a NT practice but I am not so sure that we fast for the right reasons. Jesus disciples did not fast (Mark 2.18-19) and when Jesus was questioned about it he said that as long as the bridegroom was with them they did not need to fast. I am wondering if that meant physically with them, or spiritually with them? I know the bridegroom is spiritually with melo ,I am with you always, he said. He is even in meso, do I need to fast? What do you think?
For the sake of the discussion, Jim, could you please clarify what you mean by the title off this thread please.
Are you saying that everyone is sick. And if so, what leads you to such a conclusion?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Sure.For the sake of the discussion, Jim, could you please clarify what you mean by the title off this thread please.
Are you saying that everyone is sick. And if so, what leads you to such a conclusion?
Thank you in advance for your response.
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When you think about it, we are all sick to one extent or another. None of us are what we used to be. Even the healthiest among us carry germs, bacteria, viruses in our bodies; we all lose our vision; gain weight; develop heart arrhythmia; our hair thins and falls out; we gray, wrinkle, and lose our teeth; our hearing fails; our immune system needs tweaked; we develop diabetes, arthritis; we can no longer run as fast or as far as we used to, nor lift what we used to, nor stay awake as long as we want in short, we age and, eventually we die. When Elisha was in his last illness, he died and was buried (2 Kings 13).
IMO, aging is the one inevitable (and incurable) physical ailment that affects us all. Thank God, he has provided an antidote for itheaven, where we will be given an new incorruptible, immortal bodybut we have to wait for it. In the meantime, we groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, the redemption of the body (Romans 8.23). The same goes for any physical illness.
God may, and often does, provide immediate relief from an acute illness but regardless, we remain physically ill at some level. All healing is, at best, temporary. As John Wimber said, Healing is just patch-up work on worn-out machinery. We should be thankful that God frequently provides relief for us in this life when we are feeling the effects of growing older (and we should be thankfully that he is so gracious), but even at our best we are all physically ill. It is just a matter of degrees.
As I said fasting is all about sending a message to the devil. The message is: "Don't mess with me, God is on my side"
True.yeah, but blow the fast, then what happens?
But if you show the devil the cross, and how it says at the name of Jesus, they bow, not fasting, phil 2, then there is power, the Father named all the families, eph 3:15.
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