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Your daughter may have a bladder infection, has she seen a doctor?
has your daughter seen a doctor, she may have a bladder infection.
Or is she being molested by someone?
I would really look into both possibilities.
And all you have is a headache?
Oh, that's a terrible reading of that passage. That doesn't make any sense in light of the rest of the context. According to this line of thinking, Aaron didn't have lack of spiritual understanding because he could already speak well, but the understanding of Moses was being taken away by God, and then Moses would be as "God" of Aaron and give him (who understands) the words who speaks (from who doesn't understand).
Then the anger of the Lord was kindled against Moses and he said, Is there not Aaron, your brother, the Levite? I know that he can speak well. Behold, he is coming out to meet you, and when he sees you, he will be glad in his heart. You shall speak to him and put the words in his mouth, and I will be with your mouth and with his mouth and will teach you both what to do. He shall speak for you to the people, and he shall be your mouth, and you shall be as God to him.
Ex 4:14-17
Well, I stood on God's promise of healing that cover any aspect of life that needs healing... and I've been healed from poverty (healing of the wallet), healed from addiction (healing of the soul), and I've not been sick in over 25 years (physical health)
It turns out... scripture actually DOES support God's doctrine of being a good God that desires to reverse the curse for His Children!
That means He is taking away their understanding, He is speaking spiritually.
He is not the cause of our infirmity, we are. WE are deaf. dumb and blind to truth.
God also says that promise heirs suffer, whatcha say to that?
As far as God is concerned, the Covenant started with Abraham...
I thought you would have known that... yeah, the law came later but that's not when God gained entry into the earth thru the Covenant He made with His friend Abraham which is where it all started
As far as God is concerned, the Covenant started with Abraham...
I thought you would have known that... yeah, the law came later but that's not when God gained entry into the earth thru the Covenant He made with His friend Abraham which is where it all started
excuse me, but exodus 4:11, predates the old and new cov, and you can not refute the fact, that God said what he said, can you?
That means He is taking away their understanding, He is speaking spiritually.
He is not the cause of our infirmity, we are. WE are deaf. dumb and blind to truth.
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has your daughter seen a doctor, she may have a bladder infection.
Or is she being molested by someone?
I would really look into both possibilities.
And all you have is a headache?
That is not even applicable to us today... under the OT God had to kill a bunch of people for the purposes of protecting His people so He could get Jesus in to the earth to provide salvation so you and I would not go to hell.
Ya gotta look at the big picture instead of taking one quote like that and claim God and the devil are the same guy!
What Jesus said in John 10:10 takes precedence over Exodus 4:11 due to the fact we are under the New Covenant now...
Hebrews 8:6
But now hath He obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also He is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
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Your hebrews citation does not really fit in here.ummmmmm....
I have been blessed by this thread. A lot of truth has come forth in these pages.
One scripture that has been on my heart lately is:
Mathew 17
14 And when they had come to the multitude, a man came to Him, kneeling down to Him and saying, 15 Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is an epileptic and suffers severely; for he often falls into the fire and often into the water. 16 So I brought him to Your disciples, but they could not cure him.
17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me. 18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, Why could we not cast it out?
20 So Jesus said to them, Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, Move from here to there, and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. 21 However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.
Regarding healing:
The part that's often intrigued me is the "prayer and fasting" part Jesus talked about in this passage. I don't hear many messages on this type of fasting.
Any comments on this type of fasting and healing/deliverance?
Actually Matt. 17.21 is one of those missing verses in every reputable modern translations of the Bible (ESV, NIV, NLT, GNT, ERV, CJB, etc. see here) and is relegated to a footnote to explain why it is a dubious inclusion into the original. In my opinion, based on this, Jesus NEVER said This kind goes not out without prayer and fasting. Personally, through the years, I have cast out many demons and have yet to fast in order to accomplish the feat. I simply exercised the authority of Jesus name. Otherwise, there is nothing I have done or could ever do to subjugate a demon to my will.I have heard a few sermons on the passage about fasting. one of the churches that used to attend had a prayer team who worked to altar calls at the end of the services and it was their practice to fast on Saturdays. They often talked about the verse that says this kind goeth forth only by prayer and fasting. They did have a very successful and anointed prayer time every week.
It reveals that we are under a New Covenant now... based on better promises such as revelation of what Jesus did for us at the Cross and revelation of what is actually going on in the spirit.
None of this was available under the OT and yes I understand and realize that some today cling to the OT and no little of what it means to be a New Covenant believer.
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