OntheDL;I think the bible says He is still interceding for us, does it not? He said it is finished. He will also say it is done just prior to His return.
The atonement was completed at the cross, period. This belief that it was not is one of the teachings that QOD identifies as abberant and heterodox according to mainline Protestantism.
If everything is finished at the cross, I wonder what's done in Rev 16:17?
This not referring to the atonement!
You've taken the verse out of its context and misapplied it. It's talking about the beast power and the mystery of iniquity finally being revealed to all. Look at the previous verses, 13-16. The phrase 'it is done' is being spoken in the context of the threefold union between the dragon, the beast and the false prophet as well as the unclean spirits which are proceeding out of thier mouths.
God, through the angel messenger, is simply saying that the forces of evil have progressed as far as he will let them. He will no more allow them to persecute or attempt to eradicate the saints. It signifies the ending of the great tribulation and time of trouble and sets the stage for the seventh plague.
Furthermore if your definition of redemption is to merely accept Jesus as your savior, then what are you doing here on earth? Why aren't you received back to the Father and restored back to the faced-to-face relationship?
The salvation Gospel has not yet gone to all the world, especially places like China, India, etc. Also, there are still some in the valley of decision. Christ will not return until all have had the chance to accept Him as Saviour. He is not desiring that
any should be lost. Being saved does not mean we will not still have to live and endure on this sinful planet.
And if you are already saved by merely coming to the cross, then why does the bible say ALL will be judged by the record of their works and received reward of eternal life or eternal demnation?
Salvation is not a
reward, it is a
gift. A reward has to be earned or something must be done in order to qualify or merit it. If you want to maintain that you can earn salvation, be my guest. It's your choice to tread dangerous ground.
The only works we will be judged by is the perfect merit and works of Christ, which are imputed to us.
Unbelievable. You would then stand before a throng of converts who had come forward at the altar call and inform them they are not saved by simply coming to the cross and accepting Christ?
I am utterly shocked!
The bible says he that overcomes and endures to the end, the same is saved.
We overcome by the blood of Christ, and His victory over and the overcoming of sin, hell and death at the cross becomes our own by faith.
It's about Christ and Him crucified, not us or our supposed abilty to 'overcome'.
That's what differentiates adventism from all other religions, like it or not and it's not going to change: righteousness is first imputed then imparted to true believers.
Wrong. That is your own perception and understanding of Adventism. You will never speak for me or any others who rest in the perfection of Christ alone.
Christ + Nothing = Salvation
Salvation is not about the destination, it's about the journey.
I have never in my life heard of such a strange and nonsensical assertion as this one.
