ARE YOU READY FOR THE MARK OF THE BEAST?

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Q3. Did God's people know about the SABBATH and God's 10 commandments BEFORE Mt Sinia and was the Sabbath only for the JEW?

Answer: JESUS says that the SABBATH was made for mankind he never says anywhere that the Sabbath was made only for the JEW because there were NO JEWS when the SABBATH was created for all MANKIND....

MARK 2:27 [27], And he said to them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN, and not man for the sabbath.

The GREEK Word being used here for MAN is ἄνθρωπος; anthrōpos whicch means "Human beings".

Man was created on the 6th day of the creation week *GENESIS 1:26-31. God's SABBATH rest was created on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week *GENESIS 2:1-3. Now if God created the SABBATH for mankink like JESUS says and mankind starting with ADAM and EVEN then ADAM and EVE would have known about and kept the SABBATH. There was NO JEWS and NO ISRAEL when the SABBATH was made and BEFORE the written WORD there was the spoken WORD of God handed down from generation to generation.

How did God's people know about God's 4th Commandment before God's Commandments were written on the two tables of stone at Mt Sinai (EXODUS 20:1:17) when they were already keeping it before God gave the 10 commandments written on stone if they did not know God's LAW *EXODUS 16:23?

BEFORE ISRAEL and before any JEWS we read...

GENESIS 26:5 [5],

Because that ABRAHAM OBEYED MY VOICE AND KEPT MY CHARGE, MY COMMANDMENTS, MY STATUTES AND MY LAWS.

The Hebrew word used here for LAW is תּורה תּרה; tôrâh tôrâh; From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

All BEFORE Mt Sinai.

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CONCLUSION: As shown through the scriptures alone above God created the SABBATH for ALL MANKIND. Before the written Word of God there was the Spoken Word of God. God's people kept His laws BEFORE the written God of God handed down from God through Moses at Mt Sinia.
Can you see your error here brother?

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. If you need more scripture on this topic please let me know as there is a lot more that has not been posted.

Hope this helps.

The Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel. The Decalogue of Israel has no effect on gentile salvation since we are not Jews. Non-Jews never had the law and Jesus did not die just so gentiles could become Jews. The law is fulfilled and we live by the law of Christ. You might benefit from reading the entire NT.

Deuteronomy 5:2-3 King James Version (KJV)

2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 5:2-3 - King James Version

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

SDA is a lost cause. No point in throwing your life away on defending the indefensible. Ellen White is refuted historically which means she was a false prophetess.

Did Constantine change the Sabbath to Sunday like SDAs & Flat Earthers claim?

Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of the Apostles in the 1st century. However, his written Epistles come from the early 2nd century in which I will be quoting from 108 A.D.

"Consequently, if the people who were given to obsolete practices faced the hope of a new life, and if these no longer observe the Sabbath, but regulate their calendar by the Lord's Day, the day, too, on which our Life rose by His power and through the medium of His death--though some deny this; and if to this mystery we owe our faith and because of it submit to sufferings to prove ourselves disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Teacher: how, then, can we possibly live apart from Him of whom, by the working of the Spirit, even the Prophets were disciples and to whom they looked forward as their Teacher? And so He, for whom they rightly waited, came and raised then from the dead" (St.Ignatius of Antioch, "Epistle to the Magnesians," Ancient Christian Writers Vol.1, p.72).

Since Ignatius was a disciple of the Apostle John, we now have a better understanding of what St.John meant in Rev.1:9-10:

"9 I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet."

The Lord's Day is what the early Christians called the first day of the week.

The Didache (also known as "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles"), was written in the 1st century, even before the Ignatian Epistles, and is the earliest existing catechism for the church. Most scholars agree that the date of composition is between 50--70 A.D. The author of this catechism is unknown. But it is the earliest mention of Sunday (i.e., The Lord's Day) outside the Canon.

"On the Lord's own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks; but first confess your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure" (The Didache, Ancient Christian Writers Vol.6, p.23).

In 150 A.D. we would see Justin Martyr use the word Sunday for the first time in Christian history:

"And on the day called Sunday all who live in the cities or in the country gather together in one place, and memoirs of the Apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits."

Again Justin Martyr mentions Sunday:

"But we all hold this common gathering on Sunday, since it is the first day, on which God transforming darkness and matter made the matter made the universe, Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead. For they crucified Him on the day before Saturday, and on the day after Saturday, He appeared to His Apostles and disciples and taught then these things which we have passed on to you also for your consideration" (St.Justin Martyr, "The First And Second Apologies," Ancient Christian Writers Vol.56, pp.71-72).

SDA Founder Proven Wrong. Sunday was kept from the beginning of the Christian movement. Sunday is the day of our resurrection from the dead. Apparently SDAs don't believe we resurrect.

"Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work" (John 4:34).

Finish what work? What happens when Christ' finishes that unfinished work? Hello, covenant change, new high priest, old covenant fulfilled, gentiles never under the law of Israel. It was never intended to be the law of the world. It was just solely for Israel only. That is why you never seen the Hebrews fight beyond the boundaries set by the Lord. But your view places the Mosaic covenant into a serious and unfair criticism, because you say the Jews had to conquer the earth for God. Yet they never left the borders God made for them. That is because the Decalogue was between God and Israel. Its fulfilled now. Sunday is the Christian Sabbath.

2 Thessalonians 2:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
The Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel. The Decalogue of Israel has no effect on gentile salvation since we are not Jews. Non-Jews never had the law and Jesus did not die just so gentiles could become Jews. The law is fulfilled and we live by the law of Christ. You might benefit from reading the entire NT.

Deuteronomy 5:2-3 King James Version (KJV)

As posted earlier God's WORD disagrees with you. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ISRAEL are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *(scripture support see post # 682 linked). Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. The scriptures provided above are God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT not mine.

Sorry brother God's WORD dissagrees with you.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
SDA is a lost cause. No point in throwing your life away on defending the indefensible. Ellen White is refuted historically which means she was a false prophetess.

Did Constantine change the Sabbath to Sunday like SDAs & Flat Earthers claim?

Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of the Apostles in the 1st century. However, his written Epistles come from the early 2nd century in which I will be quoting from 108 A.D.

Since Ignatius was a disciple of the Apostle John, we now have a better understanding of what St.John meant in Rev.1:9-10:

The Lord's Day is what the early Christians called the first day of the week.

The Didache (also known as "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles"), was written in the 1st century, even before the Ignatian Epistles, and is the earliest existing catechism for the church. Most scholars agree that the date of composition is between 50--70 A.D. The author of this catechism is unknown. But it is the earliest mention of Sunday (i.e., The Lord's Day) outside the Canon.

In 150 A.D. we would see Justin Martyr use the word Sunday for the first time in Christian history:

Again Justin Martyr mentions Sunday:

SDA Founder Proven Wrong. Sunday was kept from the beginning of the Christian movement. Sunday is the day of our resurrection from the dead. Apparently SDAs don't believe we resurrect.

Finish what work? What happens when Christ' finishes that unfinished work? Hello, covenant change, new high priest, old covenant fulfilled, gentiles never under the law of Israel. It was never intended to be the law of the world. It was just solely for Israel only. That is why you never seen the Hebrews fight beyond the boundaries set by the Lord. But your view places the Mosaic covenant into a serious and unfair criticism, because you say the Jews had to conquer the earth for God. Yet they never left the borders God made for them. That is because the Decalogue was between God and Israel. Its fulfilled now. Sunday is the Christian Sabbath.

Once again I see you have no scripture that supports your claims. Let me know when you have some scriptures to share. Seems you do not. Does this not worry you? Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

SDAs don't understand the simple dilemma here: We Christians, most of us today being gentiles, are not Jews. There is a difference between a Christian and a Jew. Jews reject the resurrection of Christ as well as the virgin birth. This is not a license to hate Jews. It just means we are not Jews. We're Christians. Christians worship on Sunday. SDAs never celebrate Christ' resurrection because secretly they don't believe it happened. So they worship on the day Christ was dead in the tomb.

SDAs are Jew wannabees but they don't stone anyone to death for breaking the Sabbath so they don't keep the Sabbath Command at all. The whole 20 years I was an SDA I( never saw anyone stoned to death for adultery or breaking the Sabbath. SDAs say that Jesus died to save the animals from getting sacrificed. Its an extremely heretical belief system with no logical defense.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
As posted earlier God's WORD disagrees with you. According to God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT God's ISRAEL are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *(scripture support see post # 682 linked). Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear. The scriptures provided above are God's WORD in the NEW COVENANT.

Sorry brother God's WORD dissagrees with you.

I just quoted from Scripture but you are trying to play it off like I didn't quote anything. I refuted the SDA claim that there was a Sabbath Command before Moses. Scripture refutes it. What you are doing is what all SDAs do. You pretend I didn't post anything and then you keep coming back with the same posts which restate the claims I refuted in previous posts. So you are being disingenuous in your replies.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
SDAs don't understand the simple dilemma here: We Christians, most of us today being gentiles, are not Jews. There is a difference between a Christian and a Jew. Jews reject the resurrection of Christ as well as the virgin birth. This is not a license to hate Jews. It just means we are not Jews. We're Christians. Christians worship on Sunday. SDAs never celebrate Christ' resurrection because secretly they don't believe it happened. So they worship on the day Christ was dead in the tomb.

SDAs are Jew wannabees but they don't stone anyone to death for breaking the Sabbath so they don't keep the Sabbath Command at all. The whole 20 years I was an SDA I( never saw anyone stoned to death for adultery or breaking the Sabbath. SDAs say that Jesus died to save the animals from getting sacrificed. Its an extremely heretical belief system with no logical defense.

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. God's WORD says that God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL then you have no part in the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12 *(further scripture support already provided see post # 682 linked).

The only delema is with your teaching. You speak your own words over God's Word. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments in the NEW COVENANT that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20, has been abolished. The same as there is no scripture that says that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

It is JESUS that says in His own words all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Does this not worry you? It should. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it and you have provided none.

Sorry brother God's Word disagrees with you. I know who I believe how about you? Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear. Only posted in love and as a help to you brother.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
I just quoted from Scripture but you are trying to play it off like I didn't quote anything. I refuted the SDA claim that there was a Sabbath Command before Moses. Scripture refutes it. What you are doing is what all SDAs do. You pretend I didn't post anything and then you keep coming back with the same posts which restate the claims I refuted in previous posts. So you are being disingenuous in your replies.

You quote scripture that has nothing to do with the questions asked of you. Where is the scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you have not posted any scripture then why do you pretend that you have? This is the same as your false allegations you provide here. I will leave that one between you and God. I do not judge you.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

The 10 Commandments:

Deuteronomy 5:2-3 King James Version (KJV)

2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.

Then we go back to Ignatius of Antioch who was clear the Lord's Day was Sunday. SDAs claim the Apostles failed! No, the Puritans failed! Them and their poorly translated Bible with radical anticatholic notes.

The Puritan movement was a slap in the face to true reformers like Luther, Tyndale, Coverdale, and Cranmer. The entire purpose of the Protestant movement was to get the church to give up on heresy and get back to ancient tradition...before the Crusade period which did pollute the church doctrines with indulgences. The Protestant movement was NOT a protest again Catholicism!! The Protestant movement sought to remove heretical practices from the church.
Along comes the Puritan movement and all the sudden this Protestant reformation seeks to do away with all things Catholic which means abolishing tradition. Well how stupid. Ban your own history. Not smart. The Puritans translated the worst Bible of the 16th century. It was revised over 100 times in just like a 50 year span of time and it still says:

From the 1560 Geneva Bible: The Puritan Bible with anti-Catholic notes,

Zechariah 9:9,

♦Geneva Bible:

"Rejoice greatly, O daughter Zion: shout for joy, O daughter Jerusalem: behold, thy king cometh unto thee: he is just, and saved himself ..."

He saved himself

Saving Himself is what Satan wanted Jesus to do! Sounds like a Gnostic influenced verse.

Now from Anglican translated Bibles:

♦Matthew Bible and Great Bible:

"Rejoice thou greatly, O daughter Zion; be glad, O daughter Jerusalem. For lo, thy king cometh unto thee, even the righteous and Saviour ..."

♦️King James Bible:

"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation..."

Huge difference!

The SDAs, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Calvinists. and thousands of other denominations all got their start from the poorly translated Geneva Bible with radical antiCatholic notes. Remove the denominations that follow poorly translated Bible and you are left with only one English speaking church -- the Anglican Church!

Funny, SDAs use Anglican Catholic Bible (KJV). Yet SDA Bible is the Geneva Bible with radical antiCatholic notes. The Geneva Bible was translated by low churchman. None of them had William Tyndale's knowledge of Hebrew and Greek words. Sure, some of the Geneva scholars did have some knowledge of Hebrew and Greek -- but they weren't masters! And while I'll take the Geneva Bible over many modern translations today, it is still a poor translation done by low churchman.
William Miller only had 2 years of Bible study before he predicted the end of the world in 1844. Two years is not enough time to become a Bible teacher. William Miller made a false prediction and the outcome was the Seventh Day Adventist Church. A church rooted in a bad translation with radical antiCatholic notes and founded on a false prophecy.

Sorry but I'll stick to the ancient Anglican liturgy and traditions.

Roman Catholic Church FACT: The RCC today is not the same RCC as in ancient times. I was interested in becoming a RC until I discovered they no longer uphold tradition like they say they do. As soon as I seen them deviate from tradition I canceled out the idea of becoming a RC. I am ACC (Anglican Catholic Church) and we have no Pope and do not answer to the arch-liberal of Canterbury. We are the American church which goes by the 1928 BCP...the Continuum of today. I spent much time and money studying early Christianity and all facts led me to the Anglican Church as being the most authentic.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
You quote scripture that has nothing to do with the questions asked of you. Where is the scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you have not posted any scripture then why do you pretend that you have? I will leave that one between you and God. I do not judge you.

John 4:34

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
The 10 Commandments:

Deuteronomy 5:2-3 King James Version (KJV)

Then we go back to Ignatius of Antioch who was clear the Lord's Day was Sunday. SDAs claim the Apostles failed! No, the Puritans failed! Them and their poorly translated Bible with radical anticatholic notes.

The Puritan movement was a slap in the face to true reformers like Luther, Tyndale, Coverdale, and Cranmer. The entire purpose of the Protestant movement was to get the church to give up on heresy and get back to ancient tradition...before the Crusade period which did pollute the church doctrines with indulgences. The Protestant movement was NOT a protest again Catholicism!! The Protestant movement sought to remove heretical practices from the church.
Along comes the Puritan movement and all the sudden this Protestant reformation seeks to do away with all things Catholic which means abolishing tradition. Well how stupid. Ban your own history. Not smart. The Puritans translated the worst Bible of the 16th century. It was revised over 100 times in just like a 50 year span of time and it still says:

From the 1560 Geneva Bible: The Puritan Bible with anti-Catholic notes,

Zechariah 9:9,

♦Geneva Bible:

He saved himself

Saving Himself is what Satan wanted Jesus to do! Sounds like a Gnostic influenced verse.

Now from Anglican translated Bibles:

♦Matthew Bible and Great Bible:

♦️King James Bible:

Huge difference!

The SDAs, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Calvinists. and thousands of other denominations all got their start from the poorly translated Geneva Bible with radical antiCatholic notes. Remove the denominations that follow poorly translated Bible and you are left with only one English speaking church -- the Anglican Church!

Funny, SDAs use Anglican Catholic Bible (KJV). Yet SDA Bible is the Geneva Bible with radical antiCatholic notes. The Geneva Bible was translated by low churchman. None of them had William Tyndale's knowledge of Hebrew and Greek words. Sure, some of the Geneva scholars did have some knowledge of Hebrew and Greek -- but they weren't masters! And while I'll take the Geneva Bible over many modern translations today, it is still a poor translation done by low churchman.
William Miller only had 2 years of Bible study before he predicted the end of the world in 1844. Two years is not enough time to become a Bible teacher. William Miller made a false prediction and the outcome was the Seventh Day Adventist Church. A church rooted in a bad translation with radical antiCatholic notes and founded on a false prophecy.

Sorry but I'll stick to the ancient Anglican liturgy and traditions.

Roman Catholic Church FACT: The RCC today is not the same RCC as in ancient times. I was interested in becoming a RC until I discovered they no longer uphold tradition like they say they do. As soon as I seen them deviate from tradition I canceled out the idea of becoming a RC. I am ACC (Anglican Catholic Church) and we have no Pope and do not answer to the arch-liberal of Canterbury. We are the American church which goes by the 1928 BCP...the Continuum of today. I spent much time and money studying early Christianity and all facts led me to the Anglican Church as being the most authentic.

Hmm simply more of your empty false allegations and your words that are not God's WORD. Where is the scripture you have provided that says God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are not commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? You have provided none have you? Something to pray and think about. Let me know when you have some scriptures to share. Only God's Word is true and you are not providing any for your claims to answer the questions asked of you now are you ?

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
John 4:34

Nope that does not say God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day now does it? At least your trying to quote scripture now which is a step in the right direction.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. God's WORD says that God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL then you have no part in the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12 *(further scripture support already provided see post # 682 linked).

The only delema is with your teaching. You speak your own words over God's Word. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 commandments in the NEW COVENANT that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20, has been abolished. The same as there is no scripture that says that we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

It is JESUS that says in His own words all those who follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. Does this not worry you? It should. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it and you have provided none.

Sorry brother God's Word disagrees with you. I know who I believe how about you? Ignoring God's Word does not make it dissappear. Only posted in love and as a help to you brother.

May God help you as you seek him through his Word.

I've read this post before. Jesus never said not to listen to His Apostles! You take a quote aimed at the Pharisees and then say its about Christ' Apostles. Heresy! Scripture says to follow tradition set forth by the Apostles.

2 Thessalonians 2:15 King James Version (KJV)

15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
I've read this post before. Jesus never said not to listen to His Apostles! You take a quote aimed at the Pharisees and then say its about Christ' Apostles. Heresy! Scripture says to follow tradition set forth by the Apostles.

Who said JESUS said not to listen to the Apostes? I have only quoted JESUS and the Apostles. Seems you do not believe them and argue your words against theirs. Now if I have never says that JESUS said not to listen to the Apostles and I have only ever quoted JESUS and the Apostles why do you pretend I have said something I have never said? I will leave that between you and God brother your just repeating yourself. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

LoveGodsWord · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Who said JESUS said not to listen to the Apostes? I have only quoted JESUS and the Apostles. Seems you do not believe them and argue your words against theirs. Now if I have never says that JESUS said not to listen to the Apostles and I have only ever quoted JESUS and the Apostles why do you pretend I have said something I have never said? I will leave that between you and God brother.

MATTHEW 15:3-9 is in reference to JESUS WARNING to anyone that follows the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. Now if there is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been ablosihed and there is no scripture that says we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day and this tradition became a man made teaching and church law brought in by the Mother Church (RCC) after the death of JESUS and the Apostles then who should we follow according to the words of JESUS in MATTHEW 15:3-9? I know who I believe and follow, how about you?

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Nope that does not say God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day now does it? At least your trying to quote scripture now which is a step in the right direction.

Yes it does! It says Sunday is the Sabbath. God's work was completed on Sunday and on that day we rest in Christ. Sunday is the new Sabbath. Even new Jewish converts understand this and they keep Sunday.

There is Romans 14 which you would benefit very well to read --- and to read it without a commentary!

The nail in the coffin is this harsh reality: the SDA church has a very very alarmingly high apostate rate. They have an extremely high divorce rate. Jesus said we will know them by their fruits. I was an SDA for 20 years...long enough to know that their fruits of the spirit are not holy. Its a very carnal and soulless church...a spiritually dead place where spiritually dead corpses lie around and teach apostasy.

SDAs also believe Ellen G.White's writings are more inspired than the Bible!!! Ellen White (supposedly) came to confirm the Scriptures. Funny thing, that's what every false prophet says. Its a sneaky way of saying the Bible is a corruption and only the false prophet can lead the way. Muhammad said he came to confirm the Scriptures, too. We know he was demon possessed. Every false prophet says Constantine changed something and how they come to confirm the Scriptures. The Scriptures don't need confirming!!

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
MATTHEW 15:3-9 is in reference to JESUS WARNING to anyone that follows the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. Now if there is no scripture that says God's 4th Commandment has been ablosihed and there is no scripture that says we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day and this tradition became a man made teaching and church law brought in by the Mother Church (RCC) after the death of JESUS and the Apostles then who should we follow according to the words of JESUS in MATTHEW 15:3-9? I know who I believe and follow, how about you?

Fulfilled...fulfilled is the word! Jesus received worship every Sunday on the day of resurrection and after. All traditions we have are very ancient and these help us better understand the Bible. SDA tradition only goes back to 1844...the Great Disappointment. SDA follows conspiracy theory and abandoned history and reason.

I'm gonna trust Ignatius of Antioch. He's a trusted source who was friends with the Apostles and a disciple of the Apostle John. The 1st century Christians kept Sunday.

FEZZILLA · May 27, 2019

LoveGodsWord said:
Who said JESUS said not to listen to the Apostes? I have only quoted JESUS and the Apostles. Seems you do not believe them and argue your words against theirs. Now if I have never says that JESUS said not to listen to the Apostles and I have only ever quoted JESUS and the Apostles why do you pretend I have said something I have never said? I will leave that between you and God brother your just repeating yourself. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

You keep misquoting Jesus as He addressed the Pharisees about their made up traditions they had that deviated from true Scripture. But Jesus was not saying not to follow the Apostolic Tradition. You fail to make that distinction which is crucial to this discussion.

LoveGodsWord · May 28, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
Yes it does! It says Sunday is the Sabbath.

You are confused your words say that Sunday is the Sabbath. There is no scripture for this teaching. Once again these are your words that are not God's WORD. Sunday in God's WORD is the first day of the week.

Then we read God's Word that says...

EXODUS 20:10 [10], BUT THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD your God.

Sorry brother your words are not God's WORD. You have been provided God's WORD and God's WORD disagrees with your words. Who should we believe you or God? I know who I believe how about you?

LoveGodsWord · May 28, 2019

FEZZILLA said:
Fulfilled...fulfilled is the word! Jesus received worship every Sunday on the day of resurrection and after. All traditions we have are very ancient and these help us better understand the Bible. SDA tradition only goes back to 1844...the Great Disappointment. SDA follows conspiracy theory and abandoned history and reason.

I'm gonna trust Ignatius of Antioch. He's a trusted source who was friends with the Apostles and a disciple of the Apostle John. The 1st century Christians kept Sunday.

Your making things up again, the disciples met EVERYDAY after the resurrection of JESUS and also kept the SABBATH as shown in the scriptures....

ACTS 2:46-47 [46], And day by day, continuing stedfastly with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread at home, they took their food with gladness and singleness of heart, [47], praising God, and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to them day by day those that were saved.

You can trust your Ignatius if you want to. I do not judge you. For me I will only trust God's WORD. You do know that the writings of Ignatius is not God's Word and there is a reason for that right? Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. *MATTHEW 15:3-9. The rest of your misinformation will not be responded to.

May God help you as you seek him through His Word.

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