Are you a Calvinist?

[theseed]

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: I believe the principles summarized by Calvin, usually known by the TULIP acronym, are biblical; I don't think he can be said to have come up with them, but rather that he drew his conclusions from scripture, and put them down in a compact form (in response to Arminian conlusions). Now, there is still a great deal of room about just exactly those principles mean, and no doubt there is room for difference between 'Calvinist' and 'Calvinist', and probably Calvin himself, lol - sometimes more than between 'Calvinist' and 'non-Calvinist', it seems

With due respect to Athanasian Creed above, I believe it is usually a matter of interpretation (of Calvin! not scripture!) that some passages seem in conflict with Calvin's TULIP principles. Of course, some may be a different understanding of scripture also; I hope AC did not mean to imply that the elect have something to boast about in their salvation (by using untainted will to repent, for example ?) - but his comment could be taken that way; even so Calvin's principles have been twisted at times, far beyond what I think is reasonable

Welcome to CF Asarael

You are right for the most part. Calvin himself though did not invent the acronymn. Others did based on his work (reformers). Arminias' theology came after Calvin, to refute it.

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[Beoga]

yeah, but only if your elected. otherwise, it's to the pit of hell you go.

If you are not one of the elect, you hate God and you are dead in your sins. You are not desiring God and being with him in his love.

 

[theseed]

yeah, but only if your elected. otherwise, it's to the pit of hell you go.

If you are not one of the elect, you hate God and you are dead in your sins. You are not desiring God and being with him in his love.

Yes, that is universally accepted among all Christians, they only differ in what "election" does or is.

 

[Beoga]

Yes, that is universally accepted among all Christians, they only differ in what "election" does or is.

yeah, but i think what i was trying to get at is that these people don't want to and don't care about any hope in Christ.