Are We to Continue in Sin?

[David Lamb]

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So what about this verse which states Jesus is the propitiation for believers (our sins) and also for unbelievers (the whole world)

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

I believe that John, a Jew writing to fellow Jews, was saying that Christ did not only die for Jews, but for Gentiles too. As John Gill wrote in his commentary on this verse: "that is, not for the Jews only, for John was a Jew, and so were those he wrote unto, but for the Gentiles also."

 

[d taylor]

I believe that John, a Jew writing to fellow Jews, was saying that Christ did not only die for Jews, but for Gentiles too. As John Gill wrote in his commentary on this verse: "that is, not for the Jews only, for John was a Jew, and so were those he wrote unto, but for the Gentiles also."

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Well i will say you calvanist are certainly creative, in order to keep your beliefs, believable for yourself.

 

[David Lamb]

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Well i will say you calvanist are certainly creative, in order to keep your beliefs, believable for yourself.

Not creative at all. John was a Jew. He was addressing Jews. Jews in those days regarded themselves as the only ones who were recipients of God's blessings, so in that context it makes sense for John to write as he did.

 

[d taylor]

Not creative at all. John was a Jew. He was addressing Jews. Jews in those days regarded themselves as the only ones who were recipients of God's blessings, so in that context it makes sense for John to write as he did.

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So John who wrote
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

Children of God equals a born again believer

Then when writing 1 John writes this.
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

The, my little children is also unbelieving Jews. Sure right John is addressing believing and unbelieving Jews and is calling them little children.

Like i said you do get creative

 

[David Lamb]

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So John who wrote
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

Children of God equals a born again believer

Then when writing 1 John writes this.
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

The, my little children is also unbelieving Jews. Sure right John is addressing believing and unbelieving Jews and is calling them little children.

Like i said you do get creative

Sorry, what do you mean? John wrote his letters to believers. He wrote:

“Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.” (1Jo 3:1-2 NKJV)

The context shows that by "us" John means himself and his readers. He is not calling unbelieving Jews "children".

 

[d taylor]

Sorry, what do you mean? John wrote his letters to believers. He wrote:

“Behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God! Therefore the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.” (1Jo 3:1-2 NKJV)

The context shows that by "us" John means himself and his readers. He is not calling unbelieving Jews "children".

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I was addressing your post that said John in verse 1 John 2:2 was writing to.

I believe that John, a Jew writing to fellow Jews, was saying that Christ did not only die for Jews, but for Gentiles too

John was not writing to fellow Jews, John was addressing the children of God. Stating that Jesus had died for their sins. Then John goes on to say and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

So John is saying Jesus died for the sin of the whole world believers, children of God (not for ours only) and unbelievers (but also for the whole world)

 

[Godsunworthyservant]

“What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin.” (Romans 6:1-7 NASB’95)​

Many preachers and pastors today are teaching the opposite of what this teaches. They are teaching that all you have to do is to make some kind of confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and of belief in his death and resurrection, and of what he did in dying on the cross to take away our sins, and now all your sins are forgiven (past, present, and future) and heaven is guaranteed you when you die. But few teach that faith in Jesus Christ, which is of God, results in us dying to sin and in us walking in newness of life in him, no longer as slaves to sin but as servants of God and of his righteousness.

Thus, we have many people making professions of faith in Jesus Christ who have not been crucified with Christ in death to sin, and who have not been raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as slaves to God and to his righteousness in obedience to his commands. And so they are continuing in deliberate and habitual sin against the Lord, in willful rebellion against the Lord and his commandments (New Covenant), convinced that all their sins are forgiven, and that heaven is what awaits them when they die, but regardless of how they live.

And that is a lie straight from hell! So, does that mean that we must be absolutely perfect in every way and never sin again, not even once, or we will go straight to hell? No, it doesn’t (see 1 John 2:1-2). But this is also not carte blanche to continue living in sin and not in walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commands. We are not to continue in sin. Sin should now be put to death in our lives. For if by faith in Jesus Christ we have died to sin, how can we still live in it? May it never be! We are now to walk in newness of life in him, no longer as slaves to sin, but as followers of Jesus Christ.

For, by God-gifted and God-persuaded faith in the Lord Jesus, our old self is crucified with him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we will no longer be slaves to sin, but so that we will live to please God with our lives in walks of surrender to his will and in obedience to his commands. For Jesus said that if anyone would come after him, he must deny self, take up his cross daily (die daily to sin) and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to our sins, and if obedience to our Lord is not our practice, then we are not saved from our sins and we don’t have life eternal with God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:6-8; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:5-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

Jesus, Hold My Hand

By Albert E. Brumley

As I travel through this pilgrim land
There is a friend who walks with me
Leads me safely through the sinking sand
It is the Christ at Calvary
This would be my prayer, dear Lord, each day
You help me do the best I can
For I need Thy light to guide me day and night
Blessed Jesus, hold my hand

When I wander thru the valley dim
toward the setting of the sun,
Lead me safely to a land of rest
if I a crown of life have won;
I have put my faith in Thee, dear Lord,
that I may reach the golden strand,
There's no other Friend on whom I can depend,
Blessed Jesus, hold my hand.

Jesus, hold my hand
'Cause I need Thee every hour
Through this pilgrim land
Protect me by Thy power
Hear my feeble plea
And O Lord look down on me
When I kneel in prayer
I hope to meet You there
Blessed Jesus, hold my hand

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Are We to Continue in Sin?
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Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Very good. I agree and the song is a good one, as well. I began a similar thread recently on the concept of "Eternal Security". In John 14:21 Christ says "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."