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Tangnefedd said:
He was right though. They do need bibles more then food. If you were to ask many christians without bibles if they wanted food insted thay would say no.They are crazy then, just like my blanky father-in-law!

It is quite understandable given that many Christians have been led to be book worshippers and bow down to wood adorned with ink . Christianity is about a relationship with the Lord - not with a set of books . The Lord called Abraham His friend and Abraham had not a lick of the Scriptures . Also , if these christians knew enough of the Scriptures to say such a thing , they should have known enough to get them by through memory . While I believe that such people exist , I have no idea why they have exchanged the glory of the Lord for paper .
 
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Tangnefedd said:
My family will always come before my faith, if Jesus or anyone else expects otherwise then too bad!

This reminded me of that scripture about the pharisees blessing the wrong way around in Matthew 23:16, 17. Which is more important, the gold or the Temple which makes the gold holy? Which is more important the gift, or the altar which makes the gift holy?
 
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Tangnefedd said:
I don't get the analogy Aroha!

I reckon you do get it, or how else did you know it was an analogy, I only said it reminded me of a scripture.
I think you know the truth, but just like throwing in a bit of yeast into the mix to see what happens...........
Cheers from Aotearoa :cool:
 
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Tangnefedd said:
He was right though. They do need bibles more then food. If you were to ask many christians without bibles if they wanted food insted thay would say no.They are crazy then, just like my blanky father-in-law!
They would want bibles more because "Man will not live on bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."
Some of us want to hear his words and learn of him.
 
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New_Wineskin said:
It is quite understandable given that many Christians have been led to be book worshippers and bow down to wood adorned with ink . Christianity is about a relationship with the Lord - not with a set of books . The Lord called Abraham His friend and Abraham had not a lick of the Scriptures . Also , if these christians knew enough of the Scriptures to say such a thing , they should have known enough to get them by through memory . While I believe that such people exist , I have no idea why they have exchanged the glory of the Lord for paper .
Because some of us do not have any other way to know what God has said and done. There are some traditional churches that reverence the Bible(this is not right), but it still has a profound place in teaching God's will to mankind.

I think it would be better to offer the bible with the meal if the bibles are wanted. (Bibles would go faster then the food)
 
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Tangnefedd said:
None of us know the truth my friend, we just think we do!

JESUS is the way, the truth and the life.
It is only when you accept other paths to God that confusion sets in and it seems that there is no truth. God is not the author of confusion.
He has given us the truth to set us free, my friend............:p
 
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kingisjesus said:
Because some of us do not have any other way to know what God has said and done.

I thought we were discussing Christians . As Christians they have a relationship with the Lord . They therefore have access to what the Lord is saying to them .


There are some traditional churches that reverence the Bible(this is not right), but it still has a profound place in teaching God's will to mankind.

I think it would be better to offer the bible with the meal if the bibles are wanted. (Bibles would go faster then the food)

As long as the translation is in their currect language . and they are not thrust upon them , I wouldn't have a problem with them being available .
 
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kingisjesus said:
They would want bibles more because "Man will not live on bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceeds out of the mouth of God."
Some of us want to hear his words and learn of him.

That passage has nothing to do with the Scriptures .
 
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Has anyone considered how the thousands of people sat and listened to Jesus all day with no food. So Jesus spoke to them of the truth about God before he fed them.
It seems that Jesus placed what was important into the list of priorities, he fed them the word and then he fed them food......
 
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New_Wineskin said:
I thought we were discussing Christians . As Christians they have a relationship with the Lord . They therefore have access to what the Lord is saying to them .

"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"

Are you saying that I can just hear voices in my head and call it Jesus?
If you are I would dis-agree.

Why do you supose Jesus quoted scripture so many times in his teachings?
 
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kingisjesus said:
"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God"

That was what I was saying . But , you disagree . That passage agrees with my point and not yours as it mentions nothing with respect to the Scriptures .

Are you saying that I can just hear voices in my head and call it Jesus?
If you are I would dis-agree.

Are you saying that you don't have a relationship with the Lord ?
He is quoted as saying that His sheep hear His voice .
If you are saying that you don't have a relationship with the Lord , I would ask why you don't want one .

Why do you supose Jesus quoted scripture so many times in his teachings?

You don't know ? It isn't about supposing . Who was He teaching ? And , look at how many times He didn't mention the Scriptures in His teachings or parables . He quoted the law to those under the law . I am not under the law .
 
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OnEarth said:
Hey,:wave: just a question. I am beginning to wake and pray at 6am, 12pm, and 12am. I am going to set aside a holy day to feast with God and give thanks to him. I feel the urge to be more involved in giving time to God in more ways than prayer and church. I feel that so many of us have time for the things that are not important. Such as our jobs, school, entertainment, etc. I mean mostly when we give our free time to these things and put in extra hours for them. I have been fasting and am now finishing up. Something God made VERY clear to me is that he is upset that we give less time to him because we occupy ourselves with the things he's blessed us with. God has asked me to stand like Jeremiah in this day and bring the attention to all of us. It is important that we begin to give him more time because we are becoming the holy that turn his fruit sour. I just ask that you all can help me make a movement for God and devote more time. Maybe some extra prayers, more conversations with him, giving more thanks, and asking him what he would like for us to do for him each day.

Well, if we love God, we will not be partial with our walk with him.
 
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