Are We Living In The End Times?

[Timtofly]

The difference is that I'm not the only one to believe in multiple recaps.

Numbers does not make a private interpretation a fact. That did not work for the Mormons, JW's, nor Islam.

So if you are basing your judgment on numbers, that will not work.

 

[DavidPT]

That makes no sense. They have followed their own calendar throughout time. Ours is much newer

You're probably right, that doesn't make sense. I'm not certain what I was thinking at the time? It's one of those days I guess.

 

[timothyu]

You're probably right, that doesn't make sense. I'm not certain what I was thinking at the time? It's one of those days I guess.

Ah.. so you're one of us lol

 

[Sunshinee777]

Satan is here and prospering. Turn on the news and see all those in leadership positions pretending they are working in our best interests. Mirror public images of the Adversary, and we all carry little mirrors ourselves.

Of course his minions are working here on top of the pyramid. Everything good is bad and bad is good. As much as you can lie and do harm for people are considered worth praying the big money. And people think that when I get all the money I need, I will be happy. No, you will not be happy.
And with this great reset top of the pyramid is now advertising that ”when you don’t own anything you will be happy” I wonder does this mean also that they try to destroy our relationship with God and other christians? We already see that being christian is considered as terrorism and racist.
Good luck with them fighting against Jesus.

 

[timothyu]

I wonder does this mean also that they try to destroy our relationship with God and other christians?

Who will you then be beholden to when you are happy lol? Who will free you of the recent push for a 3.5 trillion dollar debt where of course the money all eventually goes to the top?

 

[timothyu]

Interesting that almost 60 years later this would apply to the news channels and social media. lol

 

[eclipsenow]

That the thousand years in Rev 20 is literal is because it says 'years', a literal passage of time. Your attempts to parallel years; a definitive thing, with cattle on the hills or a thousand generations, fails miserably.

Well, by that logic, if every time 1000 is used about a specific thing then it must be specific. God only owns the cattle on 1000 hills - but some other god owns the cattle on the other million.

Hmm, also days are a unit of time therefore by your logic the following verse must literally be true.

Psalms 84:10 - "Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere; I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked."​

Now I thought this one was exclaiming that one day serving God with the righteous was better than a gazillion elsewhere. But on your rules of specificity regarding time, it's actually saying 1 day in the temple actually equals 2.73 years exactly. Which .... doesn't .... compute.... The preference for moral purity over hanging out with evil is kind of lost that way....

Psalm 105:8 - "He remembers his covenant FOREVER, the promise he made, for a THOUSAND generations"​

God only keeps his promises for a mere 1000 generations - then it's time's up I'm afraid. I mean, if years must be literal because they describe time - then so must generations because it describes time. So don't expect heaven to last forever, because we've literally been told it only lasts 1000 generations or 40,000 years. (40 years being roughly a generation back then?)

This book is full of apocalyptic symbolism which involves images, numbers, and other kinds of patterns and symbols. Instead of being linear, the numbers are inside each other like a Russian Matryoshka doll. Instead of being literal, Jesus is described as a lamb because he was sacrificed on our behalf. Instead of being literal, 7 describes perfection - not units of time - because Jesus has perfect knowledge of what is happening (7 eyes) or perfect power over the situation (7 horns).

Otherwise, if you're going to argue that 1000 is literal - when does it stop? Is THIS literal? I find myself posting this a few times today because I have to remind the futurists that when they jump up and down about the bits they want being 'literal' - they're forgetting the whole category of BOOK they're reading!

 

[eclipsenow]

The Jewish calendar is about 260 years in error. They know it, but they won't or can't correct it.

7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BC subtracted back from 586 BCE, by:
Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 7:6 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10
Our year 2314.5 BC

Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4 Total years so far = 2000

Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8
Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BC.

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:33 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:36 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18-20 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year of 586 BC.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

586 BC + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5/30 AD, the date of the acknowledgment of Jesus as King of Israel. Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.
3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.

June 2021 AD - 29.5/30 AD = 1991 years since Jesus made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem on the first Palm Sunday

1991 + 4000 = 5991 years, is where we are now. 5991 + 9 = 6000 years

2021 AD + 9 = 2030 AD

Exactly 2000 years for the present Church age, until Jesus Returns.
4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of King Jesus.

The final wrap up and the Great White Throne judgement of all people: 7000 years.

Revelation 22...I saw a new Heaven and a new Earth and the Holy City, made ready like a bride... A new Beginning!

And if we're still all here in 2027 and the CME hasn't happened, where will you tweak this timetable for your new, improved End-Times-Table 2.0 that you are once again 'perfectly confident' in?

"Sure, there were many who foolishly made wrong predictions. The reason for that is found in Daniel 12:4 & 9. They lived years before the end times. I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day on which the Lord will arise and send fire to destroy the attackers of Israel and change the world, ready for the lead up to His glorious Return. I doesn't take great Biblical qualifications to know what God has planned, in fact such learning is a hindrance to finding the truth."
The Day of the Lord is at Hand for all the Nations​

 

[Timtofly]

God only keeps his promises for a mere 1000 generations - then it's time's up I'm afraid. I mean, if years must be literal because they describe time - then so must generations because it describes time. So don't expect heaven to last forever, because we've literally been told it only lasts 1000 generations or 40,000 years. (40 years being roughly a generation back then?)

This means no one had kids until their 40's. A new generation every 40 years? Yikes.

 

[keras]

I remain perfectly confident and I know the Appointed Day

Yes, we are told of an Appointed Day the Lord will use. Habakkuk 2:3
But we cannot know the year.

 

[timothyu]

God does not have a calendar with a date marked upon it to set things in motion. He has the world of man to remind him when we finally unite ourselves under our own god of human reason. Then will He put His foot down.

 

[timothyu]

We might be looking at the formation of a world governing body and seeing it as a sign of the end of days, some may feel this at the loss of Trump, the onslaught of the radical extreme left or even vaccines... but stop a minute and look back at the reality of the last century and see how today is nothing but a cash grab by the elite and nothing compared to the first 3/4 of the 20th century.

A hundred years ago the world was getting over the Russian Revolution then WW I followed by the pandemic. Then a decade of good times as often is after a world war followed by the dirty 30's with it's decade of drought along with the Great Depression. Follow that up with WW II, polio and 2 decades of nuclear fallout poisoning us, Asian flu, CFS and AIDS and .. and we think things are bad now?