Guide To The Bible
Guide To The Bible
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Well yes, I haven't provided any other information for you to think otherwise.
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That's true, and not only probably. I absolutely would not believe you.
Jesus said: I will be with you always, until the end of time. Matthew 28:20bUnless you think Jesus comes to earth at the beginning of the tribulation to be with the church for the entire tribulation, your post-trib rapture just got refuted here too.
2 Kings 2:1 New King James Version (KJV)
And it came to pass, when the Lord was about to take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.
2 Kings 2:11 New King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. a tempest or storm wind accompanied with vivid flashes of fire, figuratively used for the divine judgments (Isa 29:6). Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
One day Elisha becomes aware that Elijah's time on earth is nearly over. They are walking together and, when they reach the Jordan River, Elijah strikes the water with his cloak and the river parts to allow them to cross. Later, the prophet asks Elisha what he can do for him before he goes and Elisha asks for "a double portion of your spirit." Biblical Literacy: The Most Important People, Events, and Ideas of the Hebrew Bible
Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.
for God took him, as Elijah was taken, out of the world by death, according to ( 1 Kings 19:4 ) ( Ezekiel 24:16 Ezekiel 24:18 ) "for he was translated, that he should not see death", ( Hebrews 11:5 )
John Gills Exposition of the Bible Commentary
Isaiah 57:1 The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart ...
The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and
no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. ...
Act 8:33 For His life was removed from the earth.” 34“Tell me,” said the eunuch, “who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?”…
2 Corinthians 12:2-4 New King James Version (NKJV)
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Luke 23:43 New King James Version (NKJV)
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”
Matthew 27:50-53 New King James Version (NKJV)
50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.
Acts 2:34
For David did not ascend into heaven, but he himself says: 'The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at My right hand,
New International Version
No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven--the Son of Man.
Luke 23:43
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
So you do not believe David? Or John? Or Luke?Strike Two!! Three Strikes and You're Out!!!
Correct. You've just claimed you know more than the apostles did.Well yes, I haven't provided any other information for you to think otherwise.
Correct. You've just claimed you know more than the apostles did.
You have not provided any information to back that claim up.
You're correct.
I wouldn't go that far. they just didn't understand as much as is known now.
Your scathing comments show a rude disregard for the beliefs of other Christians. You judge us for not believing as you do, this attitude is wrong. James 4:11-12What, no post-trib rapture from you? I'm not convinced.
Your scathing comments show a rude disregard for the beliefs of other Christians. You judge us for not believing as you do, this attitude is wrong. James 4:11-12
At the Return of Jesus, post-Great Tribulation, He will gather those of His people who remain. Matthew 24:31 and 2 Thess 4:15-17 describe that gathering, a transportation from where each Christian is to Jerusalem, where Jesus is. Same as what happened to Philip. Acts 8:39
There is no rapture to heaven, pre, mid, or post.
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, [Comma] you shall be with Me in Paradise.” [/b][/u][/size] Isn't it amazing that Christ went down to the underworld that day and remained there and was not resurrected until after 3 more days. Do you think Christ was saying you shall be with me in Hell?
If David is not in heaven and John says no one except Christ has ever gone to heaven I think you have not only struck out, you have no milk to get you anywhere.
And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, [/quote]And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you today, [Comma] you shall be with Me in Paradise.” [/b][/u][/size] Isn't it amazing that Christ went down to the underworld that day and remained there and was not resurrected until after 3 more days. If he was only resurrected 3 days later, then you have the TODAY all wrong. Do you think Christ was saying you shall be with me in Hell using your TODAY theory?So you're telling us that Jesus told the thief he would join Him in hell today? I don't think so. Now who's the one who struck out, Bud?
1 Peter 4:10-11 If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.Who was Paul persecuting below, Jesus or Christians? Acts 9:4 New King James Version (NKJV) .
Yes, I speak against all false theories. Are you a flat earth believer? I would post against that idea, just as I post against the ridiculous idea of people being whisked to heaven. And I have never called anyone 'lost'.Aren't you the one constantly speaking evil against our belief in a pre-trib rapture, and calling us the lost? James 4:11-12
Are you incapable of plain reading? I said there will be a transportation of those who remain, when Jesus Returns, to where He is: in Jerusalem.So what's this you said yesterday about no such thing as a rapture, pre, mid or post? Sounds like your word doesn't carry much weight.
Cat got your tongue?So you're telling us that Jesus told the thief he would join Him in hell today? I don't think so. Now who's the one who struck out, Bud?
So you're telling us Paradise is in hell? I don't think so. Now who's the one without milk, Bud?
1 Peter 4:10-11 If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.Who was Paul persecuting below, Jesus or Christians? Acts 9:4 New King James Version (NKJV) .
About what?
The Resurrection?
Grace through Faith?
Repentance?
The Law?
What exactly did they believe and teach about, that they didn't know as much as is known today?
I assume we can leave out things such as electricity and internal combustion, DNA and space flight, since they did not teach about those things in the first place...I'm wondering what you believe they actually taught that they didn't have enough information to teach correctly?
Well apart from a little confusion amongst themselves about how to evangelise to gentiles while maintaining the law, which is inconsequential really, the main area that we have better understanding of today and as I mentioned, is prophesy. ...Prophesy was my main point.
Ok. Who today has the authority to declare an event to be the fulfillment of Prophesy, Anybody?.. and what happens when one person says an event is the fulfillment and another says it isn't?
Who in the New testament (or Old) had the authority to declare when an event fulfilled prophesy? Anybody?
Who were the only people in scripture who ever correctly declared an event was the fulfillment of prophesy?
Any 'rapture to heaven' is wrong and unbiblical.
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