Are we far too egotistical, calling ourselves christian ?

[Alithis]

"christian" is term that is generally used the world over to mean one who believes in the Bible .

and that is about all it has changed to mean .
to be deemed under the title christian is absolutely no guarantee of salvation . the bible certainly does not sate that calling yourself christian gets any one saved .

the term was first used in Antioch by the general non christian populace to describe the disciples who were going around doing what the lord Jesus went around doing .. they healed the sick cast out demons preached the kingdom of god and repentance for the forgivness of sins .. they were so like-Christ in how they lived and behaved that the local populace stated referring to them as christlike . the word basically means "like the anointed" (the anointed is jesus the CHRIST -christ means anointed one )

so these disciples were living and acting so much like the lord Jesus they got nicknamed .."christlike ones"
before this and even after this The apostles never called each other Christians. .The disciples called each other,"brethren", "disciples", "apostles", "servants", "believers", "followers", "the faithful", "the elect", "the called", and "saints." but never christians .

Christ never called himself a Christian, Christ also never called his followers Christians.

When we reflect on it we must consider -do we do what christ did ? do we heal the sick cast out demons set the captive free from sin's destruction, preach the gospel? etc .

if we do not then we can hardly refer to ourselves as being christlike .. when we live out our daily lives do we do Gods will or our own.? the lord Jesus said he was all about doing the will of the father ..so beginning there ,are we not being a little egotistical calling ourselves something that perhaps we plainly are not ..
something to think about is it not ?

also "christian" is used in the bible a total of THREE times

disciples is used 233 times !

it is a term that was used by non believers to describe disciples of the lord Jesus .
consider carefully the next time we so loosely declare that we are "christian" are we so like christ in our own life ............?

 

[ewq1938]

Are we far too egotistical, calling ourselves christian ?

No. A Christian is one who believes Jesus Christ is the Messiah and follows him and his teachings in a new religion he began which is directly tied to the new covenant he ushered in at his death.

1Pe_4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

G5546
Χριστιανός
Christianos
khris-tee-an-os'
From G5547; a Christian, that is, follower of Christ: - Christian.

 

[dqhall]

Having familiarized myself with the NT writings, I may be thankful for the divine support I receive. I may not boast, for if anything is done right, it is because God is the author of it. Like an orchard worker prunes a tree in order for it to bear more fruit, believers will have their destinies shaped by God as Jesus has testified.

 

[Alithis]

No. A Christian is one who believes Jesus Christ is the Messiah and follows him and his teachings in a new religion he began which is directly tied to the new covenant he ushered in at his death.

1Pe_4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

G5546
Χριστιανός
Christianos
khris-tee-an-os'
From G5547; a Christian, that is, follower of Christ: - Christian.

are we living like christ? to be christ like..that is what the word actually meant . we ,like they,are called to make deciples..a deciple is not one that only follows..but learns to become like his master.our master healed the sick preached the gospel,drove out demons ,set the captive free... are we becoming like our master..or are we just sittin in church for 2 hours a week... food for thought

 

[Alithis]

Having familiarized myself with the NT writings, I may be thankful for the divine support I receive. I may not boast, for if anything is done right, it is because God is the author of it. Like an orchard worker prunes a tree in order for it to bear more fruit, believers will have their destinies shaped by God as Jesus has testified.

and the fruit we are to bear is souls.. more deciples.so if our life does not produce more deciples...we are fruitless .

 

[ewq1938]

are we living like christ? to be christ like..that is what the word actually meant

no, it doesn't mean that. It means to follow Christ and believe he is the Messiah. The goal is to be as Christ-like as one can be.

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[Alithis]

no, it doesn't mean that. It means to follow Christ and believe he is the Messiah. The goal is to be as Christ-like as one can be.

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look up thw word christian in the greek.

 

[ewq1938]

look up thw word christian in the greek.

Apparently you did not read my first post where I posted the Greek definition.

 

[Alithis]

Apparently you did not read my first post where I posted the Greek definition.

From G5547; a Christian, that is, follower of Christ: -

....that is a description of what a christian does.not a translation of the word. but the poibt is .Jesus never calked any ine chritian ..the deciples never called any one christian..it is only used 3 times and describes people whk were living and acting like Jesus. so if we are not doing what Jesus did..tgen we are not much like him and should not so loosly use the term. We are however to be deciples..learning to become like him..and if we are not learning and becoming like him..then we are nit even deciples..just pretenders.

 

[ewq1938]

From G5547; a Christian, that is, follower of Christ: -

....that is a description of what a christian does.not a translation of the word. but the poibt is .Jesus never calked any ine chritian

That doesn't mean anything.

..the deciples never called any one christian..

you don't know that and, One disciple wrote about being a Christian, I posted the verses, so he calls all followers of Christ a Christian.

it is only used 3 times and describes people whk were living and acting like Jesus.

Amazing huh?

so if we are not doing what Jesus did..tgen we are not much like him and should not so loosly use the term. We are however to be deciples..learning to become like him..and if we are not learning and becoming like him..then we are nit even deciples..just pretenders.

You have failed to show there is anything wrong with the term Christian. You even put your faith as Christian in your profile so that's classic hypocrisy.

 

[Job8]

Christ never called himself a Christian,...

Of course not. Christ is God, and Christians are followers of Christ.

Christ also never called his followers Christians.

That would have been premature. But by the time Peter wrote his epistle, Christian was a term recognized by both Christians and non-Christians (1 Pet 4:16): Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, [Greek Christianos] let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

 

[Alithis]

That doesn't mean anything.



you don't know that and, One disciple wrote about being a Christian, I posted the verses, so he calls all followers of Christ a Christian.




Amazing huh?



You have failed to show there is anything wrong with the term Christian. You even put your faith as Christian in your profile so that's classic hypocrisy.

you failing to see the point rather spectacularly -the you use a singular very loose reference and try to make is sound like a fact .

then you show sarcasm to the word meaning someone who lives and does what Christ does-making them christ-like ,but ignore the point even more . so-question ..do you go around healing the sick ,preaching the gospel ,casting out demons ,baptising people and making more disciples? if yes ,that is awesome you are christ like (christian) if not ..., is it not egotistical to call yourself christlike ..? it is indeed .

attacking me with random accusations wont change the point im making and your missing ..

 

[Alithis]

Of course not. Christ is God, and Christians are followers of Christ.

That would have been premature. But by the time Peter wrote his epistle, Christian was a term recognized by both Christians and non-Christians (1 Pet 4:16): Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, [Greek Christianos] let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

sure .. so if you suffer because you are going around being Christ-like(christian) -then you have nothing to be ashamed of .... if not ,well.............

 

[ewq1938]

is it not egotistical to call yourself christlike ..? it is indeed .

No it is not. Your argument has no merit at all. It is likely an egotistical reason why you take this irrational stance in the first place.

 

[Alithis]

No it is not. Your argument has no merit at all. It is likely an egotistical reason why you take this irrational stance in the first place.

really lol, no merit .. so to say you are like perhaps ..the queen of england ,when you are nothing like the queen of england .. is not a problem with you ?

in like manner, if a person says they are Christ like .. but they don't do anything even remotely christlike ..ie christian (as in the word meaning , not the traditional meaning it has been adapted to ) . that should be of concern to us .

for instance in the book of acts, they got baptised in the holy Spirit .. then the book of acts records what life was like when people God baptized in the holy Ghost .
and as a result of how they lived .. the people at antioch caled them christ likes ones .. "christians "
So if we went now to live in a far off town where no one knew us .. would the local populace say .." that person is so like-christ" .. ? in so many cases no they would not for to do so we would be healing the sick driving out demons raising the dead baptising people and making disciples.. So if we are not being christ-like- why do we deem to so label ourselves with such a title ?

disciples -we are .apprentices is a good description . but christ-like? not until we are actually being christ-like .. then not a problem if others describe us that was .but to describe ourselves that way without even being that way .. (if we arent that it ) then i do find that a little egotistical .

 

[ewq1938]

really lol, no merit .. so to say you are like perhaps ..the queen of england ,when you are nothing like the queen of england .. is not a problem with you ?

in like manner, if a person says they are Christ like .. but they don't do anything even remotely christlike .

You still don't get it. A Christian follows Christ. They are not Christ nor can they ever be like him perfectly. Seriously, you are arguing an inarguable position and you are clearly against Christians yet you claim to be one. Shame on YOU!

 

[Alithis]

You still don't get it. A Christian follows Christ. They are not Christ nor can they ever be like him perfectly. Seriously, you are arguing an inarguable position and you are clearly against Christians yet you claim to be one. Shame on YOU!

actually JEsus said his followers were "disciples" saying except yu take up your cross and follow me you cannot be my disciple - why? because we have to stop doing our own thing and do what the lord is teaching us to do . A disciple learns (like apprentices in modern speak) to become like their master doing what he does ..and once they are proficient at doing what the lord does (as listed in previous posts) they can't really refer to themselves as "christ-like" .you stuck on a traditional variance of the meaning of the word chrsitian .. not the actual meaning of the word .

 

[ewq1938]

I won't take you seriously since you claim to be a Christian yet argue that claiming to be a Christian is "egotistical". I do not believe you even understand what it means to be a Christian. That is obvious from your posts...so what religion/denomination are you a part of?

actually JEsus said his followers were "disciples" saying except yu take up your cross and follow me you cannot be my disciple - why? because we have to stop doing our own thing and do what the lord is teaching us to do . A disciple learns (like apprentices in modern speak) to become like their master doing what he does ..and once they are proficient at doing what the lord does (as listed in previous posts) they can't really refer to themselves as "christ-like" .you stuck on a traditional variance of the meaning of the word chrsitian .. not the actual meaning of the word .

 

[FanthatSpark]

To anyone or no one ,

What is duality manifested? Does one preach to self? What is in a word, here, in this construct? Is this air we are breathing Neo? <-- Things to ponder too. --> Does ones view make it correct for another in a word? If one expands that thought to what the eyes and ears hear outside the mind to belief from another where does Matthew 22:37 , Proverbs 3:5 go? Secondly? Do I preach/teach to self?

 

[Alithis]

I won't take you seriously since you claim to be a Christian yet argue that claiming to be a Christian is "egotistical". I do not believe you even understand what it means to be a Christian. That is obvious from your posts...so what religion/denomination are you a part of?

you are realy really missing the point lol.. you're approaching it from a huge self defense approach .. that in itself is telling . as it is not the gospel your defending but your self . there is really no need to be so concerned .. if we live christ-like then by all means call ourselves christ-like .. but if not .. repent .simple really