Are we also part chimp?

[OldWiseGuy]

The recent genome study of Neanderthals concludes we share 99.7 of genetic makeup with them, and thus some of us are part 'Neanderthal'. We also share nearly the same amount of genetic material with chimps. Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee? And could this explain the murderous rampages that many 'human/chimp hybrids' commit? We need to know these things (It may be better to place these criminals in a zoo rather than prison).

P.S. Go Packers!

 

[Messy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PZkY1PgWuQ

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

The recent genome study of Neanderthals concludes we share 99.7 of genetic makeup with them, and thus some of us are part 'Neanderthal'. We also share nearly the same amount of genetic material with chimps. Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee? And could this explain the murderous rampages that many 'human/chimp hybrids' commit? We need to know these things (It may be better to place these criminals in a zoo rather than prison).

P.S. Go Packers!

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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7280/full/nature08700.html

 

[Shemjaza]

The recent genome study of Neanderthals concludes we share 99.7 of genetic makeup with them, and thus some of us are part 'Neanderthal'. We also share nearly the same amount of genetic material with chimps. Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee? And could this explain the murderous rampages that many 'human/chimp hybrids' commit? We need to know these things (It may be better to place these criminals in a zoo rather than prison).

P.S. Go Packers!

It's certainly possible, but I don't think there's any direct evidence that modern humans are descended from a population that inter mingled with chimps after the two species split.

The important thing to remember is that the split between what would become chimps and what would become humans happened a very, very long time ago.

Look at the skulls of A and B, then look at the skulls L and N:

It's much easier to imagine that pairing, isn't it?

 

[sfs]

The recent genome study of Neanderthals concludes we share 99.7 of genetic makeup with them, and thus some of us are part 'Neanderthal'.

Incorrect. All humans are genetically similar to Neanderthals, since the two populations only split ~1 million years ago. Some humans (all those without recent African ancestry) are slightly more closely related to Neanderthals than the others, the result of interbreeding ~50,000 years ago.

We also share nearly the same amount of genetic material with chimps.

I don't know what that means. We're something like 8 times as genetically distant from chimpanzees as we are from Neanderthals.

Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee?

No. Both humans and chimpanzees are recently evolved species, and their shared ancestor lived before either existed.

P.S. Go Packers!

Good start. M. Lynch is doing his best to make life difficult for them, however.

 

[sfs]

It's certainly possible, but I don't think there's any direct evidence that modern humans are descended from a population that inter mingled with chimps after the two species split.

David Reich and Nick Patterson had a paper a few years back arguing from genetic evidence that there was hybridization between the incipient human and chimpanzee lineages, but that would still have been a very long time ago.

 

[Shemjaza]

David Reich and Nick Patterson had a paper a few years back arguing from genetic evidence that there was hybridization between the incipient human and chimpanzee lineages, but that would still have been a very long time ago.

Given that all three of those lineages would be labelled "just-an-ape" at the point of hybridization, I doubt it would overly upset anyone.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

A moment of silence please, for my Packers.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

No. Both humans and chimpanzees are recently evolved species, and their shared ancestor lived before either existed.

Yes, this sentence certainly glows in the dark: Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee?

 

[sfs]

Yes, this sentence certainly glows in the dark: Does that mean we are actually part chimpanzee?

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[lewiscalledhimmaster]

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I'm sure you didn't miss sfs' reply:

No. Both humans and chimpanzees are recently evolved species, and their shared ancestor lived before either existed.

 

[SkyWriting]

The recent genome study of Neanderthals concludes we share 99.7 of genetic makeup with them...

DNA covers how an organism looks and functions.
It has been noted that Neanderthals would blend
into a crowd easily.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

DNA covers how an organism looks and functions.
It has been noted that Neanderthals would blend
into a crowd easily.

But since human behavior is more like that of chimps than Neanderthals (we don't know how Neanderthals behaved socially) aren't we actually more closely related to chimps than we might admit? Evolutionarily speaking our oft penchant for murder and mayhem had to come from somewhere in our ancestry.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

But since human behavior is more like that of chimps than Neanderthals (we don't know how Neanderthals behaved socially) aren't we actually more closely related to chimps than we might admit? Evolutionarily speaking our oft penchant for murder and mayhem had to come from somewhere in our ancestry.

(my bold)

I wish I had my notes on hand. I'll see what I can dig up for you.

 

[SkyWriting]

But since human behavior is more like that of chimps than Neanderthals (we don't know how Neanderthals behaved socially) aren't we actually more closely related to chimps than we might admit? Evolutionarily speaking our oft penchant for murder and mayhem had to come from somewhere in our ancestry.

I don't find any value to such stories other than to encourage
more problems. When you start providing helpful insights then
they may gain favor with somebody.

http://www.3plearning.com/human-evolution-human-beings/

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

I don't find any value to such stories other than to encourage more problems. When you start providing helpful insights then they may gain favor with somebody.

What is the alternative?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I don't find any value to such stories other than to encourage
more problems. When you start providing helpful insights then
they may gain favor with somebody.

IntoScience: Did you know that we as humans share at least 98.5% of our DNA with chimpanzees?

Genetics | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

Chimps, Humans 96 Percent the Same, Gene Study Finds

Your links deal with evolution of physical characteristics. I'm talking about inherited behavior. Since antisocial behavior is uncommon in the animal world (predation excepted of course) the antisocial behavior of man needs to be more fully understood from an evolutionary perspective. After all it is the biggest problem facing mankind.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

<edit> After all it is the biggest problem facing mankind.

It is?

 

[Shemjaza]

Your links deal with evolution of physical characteristics. I'm talking about inherited behavior. Since antisocial behavior is uncommon in the animal world (predation excepted of course) the antisocial behavior of man needs to be more fully understood from an evolutionary perspective. After all it is the biggest problem facing mankind.

Animals fight among their own species all the time. For example: big cats frequently kill each other in disputes over territory.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Animals fight among their own species all the time. For example: big cats frequently kill each other in disputes over territory.

They fight for a larger social purpose, as well as hunting (predation) rights. Man fights and kills for purposes that have no redeeming social value.