Are they all non-believers?

[grasping the after wind]

Hello again, I have a friend sort of that has scizophrenic, but my question is, why don`t god heal him? I mean, absolutely every scizoprenic has stayed that way their entire life, are they all non-believers since god won`t help them?

How are the two things ,one's belief or lack thereof and healing one's physical maladies , related in your mind? Is there some reason you think they are? Do you think that Christians tell each other that to be healed of a sickness people must believe? We don't . We also don't tell each other that if one believes they will be healed of any sickness they encounter. We believe in a different sort of healing that is always available to those that would ask for it. A good friend of mine was diagnosed with ALS. He was a devote Christian. He got really angry at God over the fact his life was going to be cut short and made miserable in the process. He told God that it was unfair and wanted to know why bad things are allowed to happen to good people even true believers like himself. This lasted for a short time but changed in a instant when,for some reason( perhaps he had wrongly set his alarm) , he heard a particular song come on his radio waking him up in the middle of the night. The song reminded him of his faith and eased his mind and from that time on he felt comforted. No longer angry or afraid . He came to church that next day and told everyone what was happening to him , how he had felt and that God had healed him in his heart and soul but not in his body. He even said that if given the choice between having his disease healed and having the kind of healing he now felt he would refuse the healing of his body. I believe he was sincere in saying that but I knew him and you did not .

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

but doesn`t he promise paradise in this life?

Where in the Bible does He promise that? Don't believe everything a prosperity preacher tells you!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I heard an interesting preacher who was dealing with the topic psychology, and he said that no one had ever heard of scizophrenia until someone came up the word! Also, there is general disagreement among psychologists and psychiatrists whether it is a real sickness or not!

I've just received a new revelation about it. Here it is: Read and believe the Bible!!!

A good trained tester can test for pellagra. This is much better than what might not even qualify as a 'disease'. Before 1950, it was much better known, and easy to take care of, but not nearly as profitable!

 

[Pulchra]

How are the two things ,one's belief or lack thereof and healing one's physical maladies , related in your mind? Is there some reason you think they are? Do you think that Christians tell each other that to be healed of a sickness people must believe? We don't . We also don't tell each other that if one believes they will be healed of any sickness they encounter. We believe in a different sort of healing that is always available to those that would ask for it. A good friend of mine was diagnosed with ALS. He was a devote Christian. He got really angry at God over the fact his life was going to be cut short and made miserable in the process. He told God that it was unfair and wanted to know why bad things are allowed to happen to good people even true believers like himself. This lasted for a short time but changed in a instant when,for some reason( perhaps he had wrongly set his alarm) , he heard a particular song come on his radio waking him up in the middle of the night. The song reminded him of his faith and eased his mind and from that time on he felt comforted. No longer angry or afraid . He came to church that next day and told everyone what was happening to him , how he had felt and that God had healed him in his heart and soul but not in his body. He even said that if given the choice between having his disease healed and having the kind of healing he now felt he would refuse the healing of his body. I believe he was sincere in saying that but I knew him and you did not .

yes, but I don`t completly believe he was honest though since he probably wanted to have his body healed also

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

but doesn`t he promise paradise in this life?

How about "RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE, and JOY" in all circumstances? Does that count?
albeit WITH MUCH PERSECUTION, yes, this is promised.

Yes, in Heaven it will be paradise

For some.

mhm good

For some.

 

[Pulchra]

Where in the Bible does He promise that? Don't believe everything a prosperity preacher tells you!

ah, I just thought he did

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Here's a short answer from a Preacher of the Word that may be of some help for both you and your friend.
M

 

[Pulchra]

Here's a short answer from a Preacher of the Word that may be of some help for both you and your friend.
M

I think it`s wrong sort of, sorry for that, it`s just that if god could heal everyone, why wouldn`t he do it?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I think it`s wrong sort of, sorry for that, it`s just that if god could heal everyone, why wouldn`t he do it?

From the evidence, it is men who stop Him.

Legally, socially, and financially (for profit), instead of serving God or helping others.

 

[Pulchra]

How about "RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE, and JOY" in all circumstances? Does that count?
albeit WITH MUCH PERSECUTION, yes, this is promised.


For some.

For some.

good it`s promised

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I think it`s wrong sort of, sorry for that, it`s just that if god could heal everyone, why wouldn`t he do it?

Maybe best asked when you get there?
There will be a long question line.

M-Bob

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

good it`s promised

It is promised and delivered as promised (often with awesome surprise!) . Do you know to who ?

 

[charsan]

I think this guy is just trying to draw you into a conversation, and then have a laugh at your expence with his friends. Notice the child like response.

I think so also

 

[PloverWing]

Some (maybe many) , numbers not available, were healed even before 1950. (when it was called pellagra).

Schizophrenia and pellagra are not the same disease.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Not any more.

One or both of them are even thought to not be a disease....

go figure...

 

[PloverWing]

Not any more.

One or both of them are even thought to not be a disease....

go figure...

Pellagra is caused by niacin deficiency (Niacin). Whether or not it's a "disease" depends on the exact definition of "disease". It's not caused by a microorganism, but it's a "disease" in the same sense that scurvy is.

Schizophrenia is a serious mental disorder that can interfere with daily life in significant ways (Schizophrenia - Symptoms and causes). The causes are not yet fully understood, but I don't know of anyone who thinks it's as simple as a nutritional deficiency.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

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[PloverWing]

In that case, I retract my statement that "I don't know of anyone who thinks it's as simple as a nutritional deficiency." I still have strong doubts about the idea, but psychiatry is not my research field, so I'll leave it to the peer review process in the medical community to sort out Dr. Hoffer's claims.

 

[drich0150]

Hello again, I have a friend sort of that has scizophrenic, but my question is, why don`t god heal him? I mean, absolutely every scizoprenic has stayed that way their entire life, are they all non-believers since god won`t help them?

What makes your mind set the 'normal' one? Why should God heal you and make you schizophrenic?

What if schizophrenia gave one insight to a world beyond this one? what if it is a gift that one learns to use over time? or what if it is nothing more than a challenge put in place like all trials for us to over come?

What in your mind says God must make everyone in this life not only the same but easy? To me... this impairment most of this current generation has (the demand of a life without adversity) is a sickness that is a far greater stumbling block than any Schizophrenic may ever face. as I know several who are indeed apart of the church. How ever I do not know anyone still in the church who think God owes them an easy life. because ultimately they use this idea of a easy life to find God immoral.

I am not making reference to you specifically just point out that you nor people without schizophrenia are the standard you seem to think yourself to be.

 

[Pulchra]

What makes your mind set the 'normal' one? Why should God heal you and make you schizophrenic?

What if schizophrenia gave one insight to a world beyond this one? what if it is a gift that one learns to use over time? or what if it is nothing more than a challenge put in place like all trials for us to over come?

What in your mind says God must make everyone in this life not only the same but easy? To me... this impairment most of this current generation has (the demand of a life without adversity) is a sickness that is a far greater stumbling block than any Schizophrenic may ever face. as I know several who are indeed apart of the church. How ever I do not know anyone still in the church who think God owes them an easy life. because ultimately they use this idea of a easy life to find God immoral.

I am not making reference to you specifically just point out that you nor people without schizophrenia are the standard you seem to think yourself to be.

yes, but the problem is that no one With that diagnosis have ever been completly well again sort of, why is that when god can heal, we`re talking about alot of People