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Are there any creationists willing to debate?

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kenneth558 said:
No, I'm calling 99.99% of American Christians WIMPS! Because we are so full of UNBELIEF!

Kenneth, I agree that creationists are full of unbelief. They need to PROVE God by science. And if God didn't create the way they say God created, then their belief in God is so poor that they say God doesn't exist if He can't be proven by science.
 
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lucaspa said:
See, Darwin had the first cell being directly created.

the mix between creation and evolution theory (ie God using evolution to create, or evolution to create all species) is even dumber than straight evolution. it says right in the bible how the animals were created. if youre gonna believe the part in the bible that says God created, why would you not believe the part in the bible that says how he did it?
 
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Aaron11 said:
Even if a whale had legs, I doubt it could walk. Whales are clumsy. Plus, who would teach it how to walk?

That is the whole point! The legs on these mutant whales do not serve as legs. So, the question must be asked, why do they have these legs? Why would God, if he is specially creating whales, give them the genetic information necessary for legs and cover it up? Did he make a mistake? Does he want us to think that whales are descended from terrestrial ancestors?
 
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lucaspa said:
Kenneth, I agree that creationists are full of unbelief. They need to PROVE God by science. And if God didn't create the way they say God created, then their belief in God is so poor that they say God doesn't exist if He can't be proven by science.

the lack of proof does not prove the lack of.
 
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troodon said:
That is the whole point! The legs on these mutant whales do not serve as legs. So, the question must be asked, why do they have these legs? Why would God, if he is specially creating whales, give them the genetic information necessary for legs and cover it up? Did he make a mistake? Does he want us to think that whales are descended from terrestrial ancestors?

want to know what i think happened? i think that the whale thought it was time to evolve into humans, so he decided to grow that leg. he accidentally forgot that humans already existed. luckilly he remembered before he grew the other one and lost a million pounds, or all the other whales mightve followed him, and then there would be no more whales, just a whole bunch of humans.
 
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fortheloveofmike said:
want to know what i think happened? i think that the whale thought it was time to evolve into humans, so he decided to grow that leg. he accidentally forgot that humans already existed. luckilly he remembered before he grew the other one and lost a million pounds, or all the other whales mightve followed him, and then there would be no more whales, just a whole bunch of humans.
Strawman. Individuals don't evolve, populations do and they don't decide to evolve, they just do.
 
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fortheloveofmike said:
want to know what i think happened? i think that the whale thought it was time to evolve into humans, so he decided to grow that leg. he accidentally forgot that humans already existed. luckilly he remembered before he grew the other one and lost a million pounds, or all the other whales mightve followed him, and then there would be no more whales, just a whole bunch of humans.

Do you honestly think the idiotic nonsense you're spouting is evolutionary theory? Do you even begin to comprehend how ignorant that makes you sound?
 
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ifriit said:
Do you honestly think the idiotic nonsense you're spouting is evolutionary theory? Do you even begin to comprehend how ignorant that makes you sound?
How ironic.:p
 
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ifriit said:
Do you honestly think the idiotic nonsense you're spouting is evolutionary theory? Do you even begin to comprehend how ignorant that makes you sound?

do you even understand what a joke is. do you understand how your uptightness about everything makes you sound more ignorant than i sound. it is called a joke, deal with it buddy.
 
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fortheloveofmike said:
do you even understand what a joke is. do you understand how your uptightness about everything makes you sound more ignorant than i sound. it is called a joke, deal with it buddy.

We've see so many fundies make real statements as idiotic as that one, it's hard to tell when they're joking. That's why you need to use smileys.
 
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lucaspa said:
First, the origin of the first cell is outside the boundaries of biological evolution. What you are doing is using evolution as atheism and then looking for god-of-the-gaps.

"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved." C. Darwin, On the Origin of Species, pg 450.

See, Darwin had the first cell being directly created.

However, since then we have found chemistry that will yield the first cell:

http://www.siu.edu/~protocell/
http://www.theharbinger.org/articles/rel_sci/fox.html

"Steve! I've done it! I finished building a car."
"bill, that's a screw"
Read the article again. He created an amino acid, not a cell. Emphasis on the "created" :rolleyes:
 
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Nathan Poe said:
We've see so many fundies make real statements as idiotic as that one, it's hard to tell when they're joking. That's why you need to use smileys.

well thats silly. i thought i sounded like a lot of evolutionists ive seen on this page. some of them have muppets for pictures, others have owls and even some others have vulture looking creatures with droopy faces. you try to decide who i am thinking of.
 
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fortheloveofmike said:
well thats silly. i thought i sounded like a lot of evolutionists ive seen on this page. some of them have muppets for pictures, others have owls and even some others have vulture looking creatures with droopy faces. you try to decide who i am thinking of.
And some have a picture of the missing link... :sorry: Oh, I mean Sting.
 
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ifriit said:
Why should I bother when you're doing such a good job of it yourself?

:D
They're reverting to mindless blabbing, it would be cruel to keep forcing logic on them. :sigh:
 
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