Are the Jews saved...

[nasa1]

NASA: please clarify your words, as I hope you aren't saying what they seem to say. Are you saying that Jews who don't accept Yeshua as Messiah are all a bunch of liars?

That's what G-d says of them, yes. If that offends you, take it up with the One who wrote those words.

If you say that Jesus is not the Christ, or the Son of God, you are a liar. That's the Bible for you, my friend.

NASA

 

[A_Pioneer]

That's what G-d says of them, yes. If that offends you, take it up with the One who wrote those words.

If you say that Jesus is not the Christ, or the Son of God, you are a liar. That's the Bible for you, my friend.

NASA

Please tell me who is the god of this world, who has blinded those who do not believe?

Be careful how you answer.

Your answer must be bible based, directly from the pages of it!

Be ever so careful, it could cost you dearly.

Shalom

 

[ChazakEmunah]

can someone describe, in practical application to this topic, the realtionship of national and personal/individual salvation for Israel?

Hi Henaynei.... Finally... Somebody willing to stay on topic...

As I'm sure you are aware, in Judaism, there is no such thing as personal salvation. Salvation is on a national scale. And the Jewish concept of salvation is completely different from the C*hristian one. In Judaism, "salvation" means being physically saved from one's enemies. It has nothing to do with whether or not a person merits Olam Haba. A person's entry into Olam Haba is based on atonement. The Hakhamim (Sages) teach us that atonement for our sin is based on three things. They are: t'shuva (turning or returning to Torah), tefillah (prayer), and tzedakah (charity).

 

[ChazakEmunah]

That's what G-d says of them, yes. If that offends you, take it up with the One who wrote those words.

If you say that Jesus is not the Christ, or the Son of God, you are a liar. That's the Bible for you, my friend.

NASA

Yeah, that's your bible, not mine... Baruch HaShem. Hmm.... Your words remind of a person by the name of Martin Luther.... Ever heard of him?

 

[Steve Petersen]

Interesting that you find virtually nothing about personal salvation in the Torah.