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DavidHaCohen said:Well, I use a Chabad Siddur. It's in the Amidah... [size=-1]"Melech Memit Umechayei umiatzmiyach yeshuah" ;-)[/size]
DavidHaCohen said:Actually, the concept of being born again predates Christianity by a wide margin. In Judaism when one converts it is said that the soul made teshuvah to Judaism and therefore was reborn Jewish.
When I read that passage of your New Testament if I think in terms of the religious context of that time I understand Jesus, the Jew, to be saying that Nicodemus needed to do teshuvah. Maybe Nicodemus was someone who thought that his status as a rabbi granted him a special relationship with the Almighty. In Judaism too without repentance one cannot see G-d.
Dave
Wags said:Good point Dave
stone said:that can be interpretted into several different views, as i have learned from the many various faiths here within christian forums.
Are you saying one must believe in Jesus and Jesus alone? Or, Since jesus is a part of the father, and the father is over all, worshipping the father is the same as worshipping all of father, even his right hand?
Higher Truth said:Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
No High Priest= no intercession. Messiah is the Great High Priest.
So:
No temple+
No High Priest+
No sacrifices= No atonement therefore no release of sin burden.
Jhn 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am [he], ye shall die in your sins.
I have to go with the Testator, because the heart is deceptive above all things. It is written.
Are the Jews saved by their belief in God? What to you think?
She wasn't asking because she herself doesn't know. Instead, she was asking in order to inspire a discussion.The moderator is asking this question?
Did you ever read the passage in 1st John that says all who deny Yeshua as the Son of G-d are liars and anti-Christs?
[/qoute]Try re-reading that passage. You seem to be remembering it quite incorrectly.
Just what part of this do you not understand?The moderator is asking this question?
Tishrei, have you ever read the many passages that state that only those that have the Son have life, or that the name of Yeshua is the only name given to men by which we must be saved? Or John 3:16?
Did you ever read the passage in 1st John that says all who deny Yeshua as the Son of G-d are liars and anti-Christs?
NASA
NASA: please clarify your words, as I hope you aren't saying what they seem to say. Are you saying that Jews who don't accept Yeshua as Messiah are all a bunch of liars?Hello Simchat -
1st John 2
20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichristhe denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
The Word of God says that all who deny Yeshua as the Son are antiChrists and liars. Think about it!
NASA
Believe on Him... Him is the Father, which they do... .Just what part of this do you not understand?
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Shalom
Many look at this passage and see the statement as "who believed him"...31 Yeshua therefore said to those Yehudim who had believed him,
38 I say the things which I have seen with my Father,..Shimshon, I have to wonder why you continue posting here too, with all of the evil you speak of CF on Charles' forum? Why do you and Charles subject yourselves to such "evil" (your words) and to "Satan" (your words) and continue posting here?
Curious,
Yafet
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