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Paul was a pharisee and a teacher, when he speaks of food he speaks of kosher foods. common sense and logic should be used when studying the word. Eating clean is a message from before Noah. our father chose for Moses to write these laws for a reason?
UM - you don't have to be IN to be cool. Many people seek to be cool by doing things that are quite radical compared to what the "IN CROWD" are doing. THEN the radical things become the trendy things and they then become the "IN" things. Look at piercings. Once the parlance of the punk fringe - they are now quite mainstream. Same thing with Tattoos.GutterRat said:Ahhh...yes...I'm seeking to be cool. I had tats before they were the "in" thing to do. Nice try.
As I have said before - Jesus hung out with harlots but did not dress like a harlot let alone act like one whilein the process. Christ never conformed Himself to the world and the worlds way of doing things. He always dressed and acted modestly. Christs "coolness" was internal. Christs coolness is a matter of Character not applique.Does the Bible say to NOT be cool? I mean, I thought Jesus was a pretty cool guy...maybe I'm wrong. Or should I add that to my list of why I'm doomed to go to hell.
Pray about it, and see what the Lord convicts you of
Br. Max said:And as for the going to hell thing - that's between you and God. Doing something wrong in the eyes of God does not automatically equal going to hell. Forgiveness still applies . . . why so defensive? guilty conscience??
If you get a yes answer - I'm betting you dialed a wrong number. And I never bet unless it's a sure thing.proverbs3113woman said:Does God want you to get a tatoo?
WHY?GutterRat said:Nope - no guilt here!Actually going to get a 3rd & possibly 4th tat this weekend.
Why? Well, they are tats that have a deep personal meaning to me & my relationship w/ Christ. That is why.Br. Max said:WHY?
You don't have to do everything listed in leviticus to know that what it says is wrong - IS wrong
Mark 12
28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'[f] 31The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[g]There is no commandment greater than these."
32"Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.
You base your relationship with Christ on tattoos? Or do you feel that these tattoos influence God in some way?GutterRat said:Why? Well, they are tats that have a deep personal meaning to me & my relationship w/ Christ. That is why.
I simply do not argue with God's word. What the Word calls wrong is wrong. Sure the penalties and how these "wrongs" are dealt with may and has changed - I don't remember ever seeing Christ saying that everything that was - it no more. IN FACT I remember Him saying that not one iota of the law would be done away with until heaven and earth pass away. Do works of the law save? nope.Now, Why the big dislike for tats? Bad experience w/ a tatooed biker or punk? Just don't like the looks of them? Don't like what they represent....to you?
And I have never stated otherwise. I would not be so foolish as to assume that getting a tattoo would bar anyone from salvation - any more than murder or stealing would bar one from salvation. BUT wrong is wrong and there is a price to pay for doing wrong. FURTHER - be not conformed but transformedSalvation is of the heart - not of the skin.
Since when is a passage of scripture opinion??I'm still waiting for a reason as to why tats are wrong. Not one bit of evidence - other than personal opinion or dislike for them - has been presented.
rotfl. so um . . . since we cannot keep "all the law" are we then free to ignore it? NO!.9-iron said:I beg to differ, the Apostle Pauls if you adhere to any of the law, you must ahere to all of it. So again, either you live according to the law or you are completely free from it.
Br. Max said:rotfl. so um . . . since we cannot keep "all the law" are we then free to ignore it? NO!.
16Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?"
17"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments."
18"Which ones?" the man inquired.
Jesus replied, " 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, 19honor your father and mother,'[d] and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'[e]"
20"All these I have kept," the young man said. "What do I still lack?" 21Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Mark 12
28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"
29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'[f] 31The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[g]There is no commandment greater than these."
32"Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. 33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices." 34When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.
9-iron said:
Don't you remember Jesus said your righteousness much exceed that of the Pharisees???
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