ARE GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS ABOLISHED?

[1stcenturylady]

Sorry what have you answered 1000 times. Are you telling the truth now? It is only those who do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD that are wrong.

This is not my first rodeo with you, you know. I follow the word, because I KNOW the Word. You know what you've pre-prepared and no one can show you OTHER scripture that counters them. So believe what you want. All false doctrines are based on the pick and choose scriptures you take out of context and twist them to your liking.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Are you in Christ? This is something we should all ask ourselves. I do the same everyday.

HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE KNOW HIM?

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW GOd's WORD.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

This is not my first rodeo with you, you know. I follow the word, because I KNOW the Word.

I did not know we were in a rodeo. If you do know God's WORD why are you not able to share it when scripture is provided to you that disagrees with you and why do you ignore all the posts and scriptures with thier questions that disagree with you and seek to change the subject?

 

[1stcenturylady]

Are you in Christ? This is something we should all ask ourselves. I do the same everyday.

HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE KNOW HIM?

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW GOd's WORD.

You first have to know what the commandments of Jesus even are. You believe they are the Father's - a whole other set of commandments. If you ever got that through your head, maybe we could discuss this.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You first have to know what the commandments of Jesus even are. You believe they are the Father's - a whole other set of commandments. If you ever got that through your head, maybe we could discuss this.

Jesus commands are the same as the fathers. Jesus is one with the father. We can discuss anything in God's WORD. You get upset when scripture is provided and it does not agree with you.

 

[1stcenturylady]

I did not know we were in a rodeo. If you do know God's WORD why are you not able to share it when scripture is provided to you that disagrees with you and why do you ignore all the posts and scriptures with thier questions that disagree with you and seek to change the subject?

I don't go down each scripture, but make one scripture, one post. Then choose another, until I've answered them all. If you can't accept that, then bully someone else.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I don't go down each scripture, but make one scripture, one post. Then choose another, until I've answered them all. If you can't accept that, then bully someone else.

Yet here you still are and have not answered anything with scripture or do you reply to posts scriptures and questions in them that are sent to you that disagree with your teachings? How do you think I am bullying you? I have only stated the truth and shared God's WORD with you. You are free to agree or disagree.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Jesus commands are the same as the fathers. Jesus is one with the father. We can discuss anything in God's WORD. You get upset when scripture is provided and it does not agree with you.

Thank you for admitting what I already knew about you. That is where you are wrong.

The Ten Commandments say NOTHING about believing in Jesus. They say nothing about love.

These are the commandments of Jesus - note the author

1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

Look at Matthew 5 and see how he is adjusting the Father's commandments to fit in His ministry. "You have heard it said," "but I say"

 

[1stcenturylady]

Yet here you still are and have not answered anything with scripture or do you reply to posts scriptures and questions in them that are sent to you that disagree with your teachings? How do you think I am bullying you? I have only stated the truth and shared God's WORD with you. You are free to agree or disagree.

I have answered you. You just don't like the answers because you don't understand them.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Thank you for admitting what I already knew about you. That is where you are wrong.

So in your view Jesus is not one with the Father? (John 10:30; John 17:11; John 17:21)

The Ten Commandments say NOTHING about believing in Jesus. They say nothing about love.

Who says that the 10 Commandments talk about Jesus? But it is Jesus that talks about the 10 Commandments.

These are the commandments of Jesus - note the author
1 John 3:23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

Really? I thought they were the scriptures of John. If one is not believing and following God's WORD are they believing in Jesus? The two great commandments of LOVE which all the law and the prophets hang are from the OLD TESTAMENT. Jesus was quoting them (Matthew 22:36-40; Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18)

Look at Matthew 5 and see how he is adjusting the Father's commandments to fit in His ministry. "You have heard it said," "but I say"

Jesus is not adjusting the 10 Commandments. He is teaching the true meaning of them in Matthew 5. That is why we need a Saviour

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I have answered you. You just don't like the answers because you don't understand them.

No you haven't if you had I would be happy to discuss another topic you simply ignored my posts with all the scriptures and questions that disagree with you and want to change the topic. It is ok you are free to believe as you wish no need to get upset.

 

[1stcenturylady]

I'll go back and repeat what I've already said. But one at a time, as this chair is hard.

Questions:

Q. When the SABBATH was made was it an UNFINISHED WORK OR A FINISHED WORK?

A. v2 FINISHED WORK. If it is it part of a FINISHED WORK then it cannot be a SHADOW OF ANYTHING because it is a FINISHED WORK!

The Sabbath was made at the end of creation week. God FINISHED this work or creation. It was not given to man until it was given to the Jews.

Your conclusion that it cannot be a shadow of anything your own not based on the revelation of the New Covenant. You simply can't accept Colossians 2:16-17.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I'll go back and repeat what I've already said. But one at a time, as this chair is hard.

The Sabbath was made at the end of creation week. God FINISHED this work or creation. It was not given to man until it was given to the Jews.

Your conclusion that it cannot be a shadow of anything your own not based on the revelation of the New Covenant. You simply can't accept Colossians 2:16-17.

Your way behind. That was already responded to and shown to be a false interpretation of scripture in post # 237 linked which you also have not responded to and have ignored.

Which said...

You mix up your Shadow laws with God's 10 Commandments. Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

* Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
* Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
* Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

Sorry 1stcenturylady, God's WORD disagrees with you. If you disgree with anything I am saying please adress the post and scripture that disagree with you. Simply ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

Hope this helps

 

[1stcenturylady]

So in your view Jesus is not one with the Father? (John 10:30; John 17:11; John 17:21)

You quote John. You should believe all his writings. This was Their plan from the beginning. The Ten Commandment were only temporary to "keep them" UNTIL the promised Redeemer came.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You quote John. You should believe all his writings. This was Their plan from the beginning. The Ten Commandment were only temporary to "keep them" UNTIL the promised Redeemer came.

Sooo we are changing the subject again? Everytime you get caught out with scripture you change want to change the subject. God's 10 Commandments were never temporary they are God's ETERNAL LAW that give us the knowledge of Good and Evil; SIN AND RIGHTOUESNESS (Romans 3:20; Psalms 119:172) and lead us to the foot of the cross that we might be justified by faith.

 

[expos4ever]

ROMANS 3:20, ROMANS 7:7, JAMES 2:11 all confirm that God's LAW (10 Commandments) give us a KNOWLEDGE OF SIN if broken.

Your argument is that Galatians 3:23-25 in not talking about how an individual comes to faith. That is God's LAW is not our teacher that leads us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

Now in relation to the above claims that God's LAW is not our teacher when God's WORD clearly says that it is, please answer these questions below with scripture alone...

1. IF there is no LAW how can we have a KNOWLEDGE of what sin is?
2. IF we have no knowledge of what sin is how do we know that we are sinners?
3. If we do not know that we are sinners how do we know we need a Saviour?
4. If we have no Saviour and we are all sinners but do not know it how do know it how are we lead to Christ that we can be justified by Faith?

With all respect, it appears you are simply dancing away from my argument yet again!

This is not rocket science - my argument is that 3:24 is not about what happens in the life of a believer; it is about a step in God's grand narrative of redemption where the Law is no longer needed by anyone.

That the overall argument in the chapter is historical in nature is mind-numbingly obvious, to be frank. Yet, you appear unable to accept this.

I will answer your questions, but they are not relevant to my point, which you simply refuse to deal with.

1. As Paul repeatedly argues all over the place, the Spirit replaces the Law. Presumably, the Spirit can give us awareness of sin.

2. See answer to question 1 - the Spirit teaches us.

3. We know that we are sinners by the Spirit.

4. Same answer - the Spirit.

Are you not aware of the centrality of the Holy Spirit in Paul's thinking?

The rest of your lengthy argument really only evades the point: the entire treatment is about God's unfolding plan of redemption in history. This is obvious. So when we read that the Law we are no longer under a tutor, Paul is saying that, as the next step in unfolding redemption narrative, we no longer need the Law now that we have the Spirit.

I will address the rest in my next post.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Your way behind. That was already responded to and shown to be a false interpretation of scripture in post # 237 linked which you also have not responded to and have ignored.

Which said...

You mix up your Shadow laws with God's 10 Commandments. Besides God's 4th Commandment which is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH written on stone, there were "SPECIAL" annual ceremonial Sabbath connected to the annual Jewish festivals in the OLD COVENANT written in the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT.

These ceremonial Sabbath were not God's 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments but were connected to annual festivals and could fall on ANY DAY of the week depending on the yearly cycle (please read LEVITICUS 23;24-39).

These ceremonial "SPECIAL" Sabbath were connected to..

* Annual festival of The blowing of trumpet (Leviticus 23:24)
* Annual Day of Atonement (Leviticus 23:32)
* Annual Feast of tabernacles (Leviticus 23:39)

These "SPECIAL" Sabbath could fall on any day and were connected directly to these festivals that were prophetic in nature pointing to Jesus and God's plan of Salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

You have your Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT with God's ETERNAL LAW that give us a KNOWLEDGE of sin (Romans 3:20).

DETAILED SCRIPTURE SUPPORT COLOSSIANS 2 LINKING THE NEW TESTAMENT TO OLD

Sorry 1stcenturylady, God's WORD disagrees with you. If you disgree with anything I am saying please adress the post and scripture that disagree with you. Simply ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

Hope this helps

Yes, there are those festivals that are clearly shadows. I agree. But the Sabbath day is also a shadow of the Rest we find in the Redeemer. We are to rest in the Creator, not a day. The day part makes it a shadow of the bigger picture.

Your rebuttal is the Sabbath was made before sin entered the world, yet 1 Peter 1:20 shows their foreknowledge, that Jesus was foreordained before the foundation of the world, and thus, sin. Don't forget, Satan had already sinned.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

With all respect, it appears you are simply dancing away from my argument yet again!

This is not rocket science - my argument is that 3:24 is not about what happens in the life of a believer; it is about a step in God's grand narrative of redemption where the Law is no longer needed by anyone.

That the overall argument in the chapter is historical in nature is mind-numbingly obvious, to be frank. Yet, you appear unable to accept this.

I will answer your questions, but they are not relevant to my point, which you simply refuse to deal with.

1. As Paul repeatedly argues all over the place, the Spirit replaces the Law. Presumably, the Spirit can give us awareness of sin.

2. See answer to question 1 - the Spirit teaches us.

3. We know that we are sinners by the Spirit.

4. Same answer - the Spirit.

Are you not aware of the centrality of the Holy Spirit in Paul's thinking?

The rest of your lengthy argument really only evades the point: the entire treatment is about God's unfolding plan of redemption in history. This is obvious. So when we read that the Law we are no longer under a tutor, Paul is saying that, as the next step in unfolding redemption narrative, we no longer need the Law now that we have the Spirit.

I will address the rest in my next post.

Could you link the post you are responding to. Are you responding to someone elses post here or the ones I have sent you. Which? Now plaease notice something here in your post above. You are resonding with your words against scripture. Where is the scripture support for your claims and statements? There is none your simply providing your words against God's WORD. Who should one believe if given the choice? God's WORD or your words that are disagreeing with God's?

Hope this helps and gives you something to think about. Sent only as a help to the discussion.

 

[1stcenturylady]

No you haven't if you had I would be happy to discuss another topic you simply ignored my posts with all the scriptures and questions that disagree with you and want to change the topic. It is ok you are free to believe as you wish no need to get upset.

When I answer one question I find interesting, out of four, you bully me that I didn't answer any. That is a lie.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Sooo we are changing the subject again? Everytime you get caught out with scripture you change want to change the subject. God's 10 Commandments were never temporary they are God's ETERNAL LAW that give us the knowledge of Good and Evil; SIN AND RIGHTOUESNESS (Romans 3:20; Psalms 119:172) and lead us to the foot of the cross that we might be justified by faith.

Bullying again.

BTW, why do you hide how old you are? Are you a teenager?