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Are gentiles chosen, too?

Discussion in 'Christian Philosophy & Ethics' started by mathinspiration, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. mathinspiration

    mathinspiration Active Member

    United States
    Cannot Gentiles be chosen by God as well as Jews? Were Romans, Philistines, or Babylonians also chosen by God for a purpose?
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  2. com7fy8

    com7fy8 Well-Known Member Supporter

    United States
    If we have trusted in Jesus (Ephesians 1:12), God "chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world" (Ephesians 1:4). And in Christ all are equal >

    "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

    So, ones who have been Jews and Gentiles are now equal in Jesus, all chosen.
  3. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    If I understand your question, yes, other nations have been used by God for His own purposes. The old testament is filled with those cases. When the Israelites were subject to "the wrath of God" they didn't wake up and see God himself standing outside the walls, they saw the Assyrian army.

    It is not a stretch to believe that God chose the Romans to carry out "the great and terrible day of the Lord", or at least to lead it along with the other armies that participated in it. The "kings of the East".

    Then, just as Rome conquered Israel, Israel, through Christ, conquered Rome.
  4. CodyFaith

    CodyFaith Well-Known Member Supporter

    I highly suspect we won't see many Babylonians or Philistines in the afterlife. Perhaps a few like in the case of the Cannanite prostitute who was spared along with her family for acknowledging/fearing the God of Israel and helping the Israelites in their cause of conquering the land of Cannan. Children of these nations sure... but actual adults who lived and contributed to these evils... very few.

    As a whole both nations you mentioned were terribly wicked people groups.

    Other than that, @com7fy8 answered your actual question nicely.
  5. Jonaitis

    Jonaitis Pilgrim

    United States
    Well, in Christ there is neither Jew or Gentile (Gal. 3:28).

    I think the confusion is a mixed understanding of covenants and their relationship with each other...
  6. oldhermit

    oldhermit New Member

    "Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— 12remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, 16and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were far away, and peace to those who were near; for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit." Ephesians 2:11-22.
    This was written by Paul to the Gentile Christians at Ephesus.