There are a lot of Arminianists that also are antinomian. (lit: against the Law)Dean already identified that as Antinomianism. There are many hypers who are Antinomians.
Some hypers deny the new birth. Others don't.
All Calvinists believe that you must be born again before you can believe and deny fre will. But we are not robots for we do have a will that enslaved to sin. That isn't hyper-Calvinism it is Scripture.
Dean already identified that as Antinomianism. There are many hypers who are Antinomians.
Hi P1235Hi. I'm not technically a Baptist at the moment, but I have considered going to a Baptist church again. I would like to know, are all Baptists Calvinists? Most seem as if they are, so I'm wondering about that.
The problem with Oz's insistence on our sticking to rules for formal debate is that this isn't formal debate. It's informal discussion.
I have never ever insisted that we must stick to the rules of formal debate. That is your lie against me.
Now you're just being obnoxious.
I can see why others have given up trying to have reasonable discussions with you.
All Calvinists believe that you must be born again before you can believe and deny fre will. But we are not robots for we do have a will that enslaved to sin.
Great explanation.Precisely. All Calvinists deny free will, but there isn't any orthodox Calvinist of which I know who denies free agency. They are very different things.
In fact, I would posit that almost everyone, were they to actually be informed about what the term "free will" entails, would deny it altogether. There are many in the religious and secular worlds (myself included) who are inclined to believe free will is entirely mythical—it just does not exist because, philosophically speaking, a will acting apart from any influences—outside, inside, or otherwise—except maybe in reference to God, is simply nonsensical. Free agency, however (which is simply the ability to act), is, in my view, entirely in line with Scripture, reasons, and experience.
I am a Baptist but im neither a Calvinist nor an Arminian. I'm just a sinner saved by grace a label won't save my soul
Jesus Christ saved me from my sins and thats all your baiting deserves.How were you saved? Who saved you?
Jesus Christ saved me from my sins and thats all your baiting deserves.
Almost no Baptists hold to the so-called Sacraments being a means of grace.Here is a list of some of the things Calvinists stand opposed to Hyper-Calvinism:
"Most Calvinists reject as deplorable the following hyper-Calvinistic and destructive beliefs:
- that God is the author of sin and of evil
- that men have no will of their own, and secondary causes are of no effect
- that the number of the elect at any time may be known by men
- that it is wrong to evangelize
- that assurance of election must be sought prior to repentance and faith
- that men who have once sincerely professed belief are saved regardless of what they later do
- that God has chosen some races of men and has rejected others
- that the children of unbelievers dying in infancy are certainly damned
- that God does not command everyone to repent
- that the sacraments are not means of grace, but obstacles to salvation by faith alone.
- that the true church is only invisible, and salvation is not connected with the visible church
- that the Scriptures are intended to be interpreted by individuals only and not by the church.
- that no government is to be obeyed which does not acknowledge that Jesus is the Lord, or that Biblical Law is its source of authority
- that the grace of God does not work for the betterment of all men
- that saving faith is equivalent to belief in the doctrine of predestination
- that only Calvinists are Christians (Neo-gnostic Calvinism)"
Source
God Bless
Till all are one.
Almost no Baptists hold to the so-called Sacraments being a means of grace.
Also the idea of common grace, the view that the grace of God works for the betterment of all men, simply is not Bbiblical.
Here is a list of some of the things Calvinists stand opposed to Hyper-Calvinism
Actually the baptizing babies thing stems from their view of covenant theology. Historically Baptist have a different understanding of Covenant Theology. Baptist covenant theology and Presbyterian covenant theology are not the same. We differ with them on the Mosaic Covenant and baptism as a continuation of circumcision.Except that baptizing babies thing.... Sort of a big deal...
Actually the baptizing babies thing stems from their view of covenant theology. Historically Baptist have a different understanding of Covenant Theology. Baptist covenant theology and Presbyterian covenant theology are not the same. We differ with them on the Mosaic Covenant and baptism as a continuation of circumcision.
Also the idea of common grace, the view that the grace of God works for the betterment of all men, simply is not Bbiblical.
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