As a Christian, it is important, no imperative, that we love the sinner in order to lead them to grace.
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"If only I had a traveller's lodging place in the wilderness, then I might leave my people and get away from them! For they are all adulterers, a bunch of traitors."I agree, from my observation hatred is what turns people away. And makes them think were crazy.
I wish it were that simple, truly. I am speaking of (and you have no idea what my OP was about), those who refuse to listen when listening would show them the wrong they do. Look what such types did to Jesus, rather having Barabbas. See how they covered their ears and dragged Stephen outside to stone him. No, such types I cannot appreciate. They are as much to me a brood of vipers as they were to Jesus.Knowing what is in man, gives understanding to why they do what they do, and why they say what they say, and why they believe(the lie) what they believe. How can we not love them," for truly, they know not what they do". Looking for good in man, is like looking for sight, in a blind man.First, let the blind man see(feel) the Good(Him) in us, then perhaps in time they also will see.
Sure, as some further advice, consider what love is described as through 1 Corinthians 13, as understanding your motive to speak on this thread. Verse 6 is my favourite one:"(and you have no idea what my Op was about)" Thank you, for your kindness and your judgement. It really is that simple, "Love your enemies"!
Sure, as some further advice, consider what love is described as through 1 Corinthians 13, as understanding your motive to speak on this thread. Verse 6 is my favourite one:
it does not rejoice over injustice but rejoices in the truth;
Knowing the truth will set you free.
Hmmm, no I do not remember your compliment! (if you could jog my memory I would be interested to know the context for that).Blessings in Christ Jesus! My motive to write on your Op is purely to state that truly they know not what they do. You do not have to apreciate them that do such things, but you are called to love them. Love overcomes all things, bares all things, and endures all things, including them. They only do what their father does. And I thank you once again for your kind words.Do you not remember that I was the one that paid you a compliment once on these boards? And if you must judge, judge with righteous(His) judgement. Have a Blessed day!
Hmmm, no I do not remember your compliment! (if you could jog my memory I would be interested to know the context for that).
The trouble I am having, it seems, is not that I am not able to love the ones who, as you say, "know not what they do", while they persist to do what is wrong after I have told them that what they are doing is wrong. Sofaras that goes, there is a distinction between those I can't love and those I don't appreciate, the difference being that I can love those I don't appreciate so long as they remain contrite and able to receive correction.
.. how do you reconcile 1 Thessalonians 2:15-16 with that theology?As I say? Luke 23v34 And Jesus said,"Father forgive them; for they know not what they do."
That theology introduces conflict with some key principles of the faith, as found in Psalms 119:113-115, Psalms 139:21, John 20:23, Proverbs 17:15, for example."that theology" ? Love them all, as you have been loved! Forgive them all, as you have been forgiven!
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