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I see the back row christians that are true to church every Sunday and Wed but never seem to have any "trials" or problems of any kind.
Soooooo I am etheir doing something really good, Or something really bad because I have been hit hard the last two years.. lol
It seems if I look at it, It breaks, If I speak to it, It rebells, If I love it it leaves. Arrrggghhh

I believe this is spiritual warfare and if it is, Then why are "all" the others not getting this as well? I know those of us who are and many who never have been "hit"

This takes me back to my post about that place of perfection and I think we all pretty much agree that our righteousness comes from and through Jesus Christ and nothing of us..
So now is there a place that James 4:7 really ever happens?
There has to be or else it wouldn't be in the bible, So WHY can't I seem to get there??? lol
 

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Perfect!

"It seems if I look at it, It breaks, If I speak to it, It rebells, If I love it it leaves. Arrrggghhh

I believe this is spiritual warfare and if it is, Then why are "all" the others not getting this as well? I know those of us who are and many who never have been "hit""

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I see the back row christians that are true to church every Sunday and Wed but never seem to have any "trials" or problems of any kind.
Soooooo I am etheir doing something really good, Or something really bad because I have been hit hard the last two years.. lol
It seems if I look at it, It breaks, If I speak to it, It rebells, If I love it it leaves. Arrrggghhh

I believe this is spiritual warfare and if it is, Then why are "all" the others not getting this as well? I know those of us who are and many who never have been "hit"

This takes me back to my post about that place of perfection and I think we all pretty much agree that our righteousness comes from and through Jesus Christ and nothing of us..
So now is there a place that James 4:7 really ever happens?
There has to be or else it wouldn't be in the bible, So WHY can't I seem to get there??? lol

Me, be spiritually attacked? ..............................yes, as in, like, every day. :rolleyes:
 
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I see the back row christians that are true to church every Sunday and Wed but never seem to have any "trials" or problems of any kind.
Soooooo I am etheir doing something really good, Or something really bad because I have been hit hard the last two years.. lol
It seems if I look at it, It breaks, If I speak to it, It rebells, If I love it it leaves. Arrrggghhh

I believe this is spiritual warfare and if it is, Then why are "all" the others not getting this as well? I know those of us who are and many who never have been "hit"

This takes me back to my post about that place of perfection and I think we all pretty much agree that our righteousness comes from and through Jesus Christ and nothing of us..
So now is there a place that James 4:7 really ever happens?
There has to be or else it wouldn't be in the bible, So WHY can't I seem to get there??? lol
I think anyone walking in harmony with NT ethics will suffer persecution. You cannot help rocking the boat when you do. But most of my battles take place daily in the spiritual realm. Paul's tells us:

“for the weapons of our warfare are not human weapons, but are made powerful by God for tearing down strongholds. We tear down arguments and every arrogant obstacle that is raised up against the knowledge of God, and we take every thought captive to make it obey Christ.” (2 Corinthians 10:4–5)

We censor thoughts and imaginations the devil and the flesh keeps launching our way. Almost as if we are shooting skeet with bad thoughts and imaginations being the clay pigeons.

The devil launches pagan philosophies and scientific theories. The flesh (mind) launches old sins and cravings we once delighted in... etc., etc.
 
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There's a song by Laura Story that always comforts me when continuous bad days hit...

"Blessings"


We pray for blessings, we pray for peace
Comfort for family, protection while we sleep
We pray for healing, for prosperity
We pray for Your mighty hand to ease our suffering
And all the while, You hear each spoken need
Yet love us way too much to give us lesser things

'Cause what if your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise

We pray for wisdom, Your voice to hear
We cry in anger when we cannot feel You near
We doubt your goodness, we doubt your love
As if every promise from Your word is not enough
And all the while, You hear each desperate plea
And long that we'd have faith to believe

When friends betray us
When darkness seems to win
We know that pain reminds this heart
That this is not,
This is not our home
It's not our home

What if my greatest disappointments or the aching of this life
Is the revealing of a greater thirst this world can't satisfy
What if trials of this life
The rain, the storms, the hardest nights
Are your mercies in disguise

This part speaks most
We know that pain reminds this heart
That this is not,
This is not our home
It's not our home
 
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You cannot help rocking the boat when you do. But most of my battles take place daily in the spiritual realm

That's exactly what I experience! I mean.. perfect example of "rocking the boat" JUST WHO is in this boat we're rocking but our supposed friends and Christian supporters, right?
 
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I ask because some of us get "hit" yet others others don't, I see other pastors and members going on joyously and seemingly never having the big attacks like some of us others do. That is why I wonder if I am doing something wrong as to why the devil hasn't given up and quit like James 4:7
The Word says rejoice when persecuted so I have a lot to be happy about lately lol
 
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I was a spouse of a minister for 26 years... and he was um is't "real" but his pretense made him so cherished by parishoners.... yet I was attacked all the time... I was angry at God for this for many more years...then forgave and let it go...

I realized that this "minister" (he still is, made ME divorce HIM so he could stay in the ministry) wasn't attacked for a reason...and I was attacked for the opposite reason. God has made this clear to me this morning! [ Hopefully not TMI. ]
 
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I can have a hiatus of a month or two and slowly the devil starts working again. If you are truly born again you should be able to rebuke the demon/devil/Satan in the name of Jesus. There is power in the name of Jesus for we who are in Christ Jesus and He in us. Never try to remove this on your own but through the power of Jesus Christ.

Ummm, the double minded man comes to mind, living one foot in the world so to speak. Satan dwells there and is able to sneak in through a crack in your armor. Read James 1:8, the Lord gave me this verse for myself a couple of years ago.
 
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That's exactly what I experience! I mean.. perfect example of "rocking the boat" JUST WHO is in this boat we're rocking but our supposed friends and Christian supporters, right?
It is true "I've been treated the worst by the best". Meaning I've experienced some of the most foul treatment by the most "christian like". And this is a spiritual battle like no other. But all Jesus and the early church suffered was at the hands of impostors.
 
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Sometimes it just seems hard when you start to get excited because God has used you to lead a couple of people to Him and the ministry is going great, People are hungry for the Word and then boom, You get slammed with immense hardship.
As stated before I have a few bad days and then it seems someone will accept Jesus and the pain and all is gone.
But lately I have been just utterly slammed and I fight tooth and nail, I reject it and rebuke it and tell everyone that I am doing ok, So as to keep ministering to them, I do not want anyone else to feel burdened or weighed down because I know they have their problems as well, so I keep on
but when I am alone it presses down so hard at times that it is like being in a vice.
I must be doing something wrong as I can't pull myself up and fight as well as usual, I feel utterly drained and weak and beaten. Why will satan not flee?
Yet I know in reality that I am strong through Jesus and He will see me through all this, I am His and I know He sees my suffering and knows my heart so it has to be strengthening as another minister prophesied over me
 
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I think this can vary by individual and by various circumstances.

I really believe that when people are trying to grow and to serve, they get hit more. People who are content to remain as they are and don't get out there to do much tend to not get much resistance or hinderance from the enemy. If people aren't concerned about their condition or aren't actively trying to help others spiritually or otherwise, then they aren't a threat to the dark forces.

I think there are also others who are just oblivious or complacent. They either ignore and avoid when things aren't right because reaction and rising to be responsible takes work, courage, and endurance. So it could be they are being hit, just in denial or are unmoved by it.

Also, sometimes I feel the need to stop and wonder if what's going on is just because life is crazy and difficult here on earth. I also wonder if my trials are for the sake of discipline or if I brought it on myself somehow.

I'm in the same boat. I was thinking last night about how my life has been one really bad thing after another. There have been some times with little damage being done, but a constant undercurrent of oppression and unaddressed needs and wounds. Just the last several months have been a huge toll on me in just about every way there can be one. It's hard to not question, "Is this my fault?" ..."Is this an attack?"... "Is it really as bad as I feel like it is?" followed by "I can't believe I haven't taken this more seriously!"

It's important to evaluate why something is happening so that we can respond appropriately. However it is hard to not fall into the trap of self-doubt or feeling discouraged. I believe in spiritual warfare, but I also believe in personal responsibility of myself and others for themselves. On the flip side as far as personal responsibility, I believe that we should be compassionate about other people's needs and limitations.

sigh. sometimes it's hard work just trying to gain the correct perception.
 
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Sometimes it just seems hard when you start to get excited because God has used you to lead a couple of people to Him and the ministry is going great, People are hungry for the Word and then boom, You get slammed with immense hardship.
As stated before I have a few bad days and then it seems someone will accept Jesus and the pain and all is gone.
But lately I have been just utterly slammed and I fight tooth and nail, I reject it and rebuke it and tell everyone that I am doing ok, So as to keep ministering to them, I do not want anyone else to feel burdened or weighed down because I know they have their problems as well, so I keep on
but when I am alone it presses down so hard at times that it is like being in a vice.
I must be doing something wrong as I can't pull myself up and fight as well as usual, I feel utterly drained and weak and beaten. Why will satan not flee?
Yet I know in reality that I am strong through Jesus and He will see me through all this, I am His and I know He sees my suffering and knows my heart so it has to be strengthening as another minister prophesied over me
Scotty, you have suffered a tragic loss recently. Give yourself time, this may not even be of the devil but plain old grief. I have to say that my dad went on rather bazaar circumstances and it took me the better part of 5 years to start feeling really right again. Ultimately it's in Gods hands not ours though. I realize now He was trying to show me that and I was reading everything but into it !!
 
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But lately I have been just utterly slammed and I fight tooth and nail, I reject it and rebuke it and tell everyone that I am doing ok, So as to keep ministering to them, I do not want anyone else to feel burdened or weighed down because I know they have their problems as well, so I keep on
but when I am alone it presses down so hard at times that it is like being in a vice.
I must be doing something wrong as I can't pull myself up and fight as well as usual, I feel utterly drained and weak and beaten. Why will satan not flee?

I really think you need to have a season of rest, refreshing, and healing. I don't know what that will look like for you, but God knows how it needs to be delivered to you. I would pray and seek after that.
 
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I was a spouse of a minister for 26 years... and he was um is't "real" but his pretense made him so cherished by parishoners.... yet I was attacked all the time... I was angry at God for this for many more years...then forgave and let it go...

I realized that this "minister" (he still is, made ME divorce HIM so he could stay in the ministry) wasn't attacked for a reason...and I was attacked for the opposite reason. God has made this clear to me this morning! [ Hopefully not TMI. ]

A similar thing happened to a minister and his wife at a large and effective church where I'm from. He actually chose to both divorce his wife and leave the ministry. Then he regretted and wanted both back. The last I heard he was trying to win her back but she was resistant to trusting him again. He entered into smaller ministry roles again, but I don't think he ever pastored a church again.
 
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When in battle... all you can do is STAND! The battle continues... such as just now, as I tried to post up encouraging graphics, they wouldn't so I went to my albums to upload them from computer... and somehow ALL my albums of precious pictures are deleted! :( Another kick...and I'm already down.

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God says having done ALL to STAND.... STAND!
I need to add the other verse: 2 Chronicles 20:17


17You need not fight this battle. Take up your positions, stand firm, and see the salvation of the LORD on your behalf, O Judah and Jerusalem. Do not be afraid or discouraged. Go out and face them tomorrow, for the LORD is with you.’”
 
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I was a spouse of a minister for 26 years... and he was um is't "real" but his pretense made him so cherished by parishoners.... yet I was attacked all the time... I was angry at God for this for many more years...then forgave and let it go...

I realized that this "minister" (he still is, made ME divorce HIM so he could stay in the ministry) wasn't attacked for a reason...and I was attacked for the opposite reason. God has made this clear to me this morning! [ Hopefully not TMI. ]
One of the worst battles I had was in the form of near apostasy when a situation similar to yours happened. The minister treated his wife so badly she left and divorced him. And I knew he drove her away thinking she would also remarry, activating the Matthew 19:9 loophole for divorce and remarriage on grounds of adultery. I was young in the faith and this knocked me out of the ring. Low on faith, Satan tried to have his way with me. But in recovering, I learned there is no loophole allowing divorce and remarriage, and the wicked minister, a top dog now in a historic church, is living in adultery til this day.
 
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Ha!
This isn't all about me here..

...and I appreciate Scotty letting me vent here too... and commiserate with all also posting in understanding...

My ex quit paying alimony because I had not remarried! It's been 24 years but...
I had been the area director for a denomination adult age group...and of course part of the minister spouse's groups and not a single person from any church called or contacted me...and I was removed from position without explanation... he tells lies so well.

I wonder why God didn't give us armor for the back as HE knew we would be vulnerable to "friends" wounds?

 
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I see the back row christians that are true to church every Sunday and Wed but never seem to have any "trials" or problems of any kind.
Soooooo I am etheir doing something really good, Or something really bad because I have been hit hard the last two years.. lol
It seems if I look at it, It breaks, If I speak to it, It rebells, If I love it it leaves. Arrrggghhh

I believe this is spiritual warfare and if it is, Then why are "all" the others not getting this as well? I know those of us who are and many who never have been "hit"

This takes me back to my post about that place of perfection and I think we all pretty much agree that our righteousness comes from and through Jesus Christ and nothing of us..
So now is there a place that James 4:7 really ever happens?
There has to be or else it wouldn't be in the bible, So WHY can't I seem to get there??? lol
No answers, struggling with many trials myself, but I somewhat “get” what you’re saying.

Romans 5:3-4
 
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